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Anyone who abuses this website; anyone who abuses the authority and ownership of this website by ASchlafly; anyone who comes in this website out of the blue and demands changes to the site like they own it; anyone who harasses others within this website; will be thrown out by me without warning. Karajou 21:09, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

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In response to your little rant elsewhere, no, Sammy, you were not thrown out for making a mere "article" if that's what you can call it. You were thrown out for incivility, for attitude problems, for constant sock creation (we have records!), for trolling...for pretty much acting like you can bad-mouth this site from elsewhere while expecting - if not demanding - to edit in it. Have a nice day. Karajou 12:24, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

In addition to being proved a thief, you've proven yourself to be a lying little leftist thug. You really think you can come into this website and force your own way of thinking on us? In the end, Sammy, all you've ever done was to prove we were right about you and your kind all along. Do have a splendid day. Karajou 15:46, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

I was once DorMouse. I promise that I am here to edit in good faith, if you look at my previous contribs, I have done nothing to hurt this website. As I said at Ameriwiki and ASk, I will continue contributing here, in good faith, regardless of blocks.

NB I do not know who JonM is/was, contrary to what the lovely block reason says. I use a dynamic IP owned by Telus, if that helps you.

19:05, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

Ps, my real name is Brenden. I am a closeted gay. PPS: Simply because I am gay, does not mean I want to harm CP. I will continue editing here in good faith, regardless of blocks. If you want to get an idea of what I will add here, you can visit me at ASk or Ameriwiki.

Final note: I apologize for using multiple accounts and a fake name in my first account. I vigorously defend that I do not know who JonM was, or his/her various socks. I am not here to troll you, or your companions; I simply hope to make Conservapedia better.19:08, 17 April 2012 (EDT)


Hello Karajou, I got your request to provide references to my contributions. I am a beginner, so I am learning. My first contribution "Psittacosis" is definitely lacking references, so I will provide them soon. "Statins" have references in the poor, non-standard form of the list at the end of the article; but otherwise they are sufficient, aren't they? On my contributions to "Illegal Immigration": I think you have deleted them all, am I wrong? I still think in such public issues as immigration there is room for common observations, not necessarily rigorously referenced. I would appreciate your instructing me in my learning process. Muteswan

I've improved the formatting of the references on the Statins page. Hopefully from my changes you'll be able to see how the formatting works, for future reference. If not, just ask.--CPalmer 10:49, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

American young earth creationism increased in the last two years - Gallup survey. Question evolution! campaign and other efforts of creationists are working!.[1]

It is so good to be a Bible believing creationist! It is so easy to crush the pseudoscience of evolutionism. It merely takes getting the anti-evolution message out there.[2][3] Conservative 07:50, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Could we try adding the string "EnidBlyton" to mediawiki:TitleBlacklist, assuming we have the extension?brenden 20:48, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for deleting the vandalized pages. AugustO 13:45, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

You're welcome. Karajou 13:49, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

My edits were based on sourced information which in turn were based on federal tax records. You reverted my edits without explanation. DanielGerrard 19:34, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Then get the federal tax records instead of relying on a liberal rag that supports a woman's "right" to kill an unborn child. Karajou 20:27, 20 June 2012 (EDT) I'll add that the Washington Post is not a credible source when it comes to social issues. If PP's whole business model only generates 3% of their profits from abortion, it's a lie. Multiple credible sources have documented that Planned Parenthood, first and foremost, is the largest killer of unborn children. That they will abort for any reason. That their breast studies are a rouse, they don't even own one mammography machine. --Jpatt 20:34, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Dear Karajou,

I noticed that you recently deleted Canicattì massacre as a copyright violation, but it appears that you quoted part of the text of the article in the deletion log. I just wanted to remind you to check the log entry that will be produced and redact it appropriately before you delete a page. Thanks! GregG 20:57, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

Just in case I am not around, enjoy your 4rth of July this year. Conservative 07:14, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

For noticing those pagesbrenden 01:06, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

I noticed you reverted that edit about the name of the UK. Actually the vandal was right about that one, the full official designation of the UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Came about after the act of settlement. Wales is a principality and is not and never have been a country, despite what they claim, whereas Scotland is (or was) a kingdom. Just thought I'd mention it. Admitedly the rest of the stuff was rubbish vandalism. Davidspencer 15:46, 3 July 2012 (EDT)

Make the necessary corrections as you see fit. Karajou 15:47, 3 July 2012 (EDT)

G'day. I need a quiet word about USS Sturgeon. Can you email me, please, when you have time. (alan.carvel@gmail.com.) Thanks. AlanE 00:13, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

Sent. Karajou 01:33, 5 July 2012 (EDT) Thanks AlanE 16:36, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

Could you explain a few things to me please? According to which definition of "trolling" whatever I've done on this encyclopedia was trolling? Was expressing an opinion in Talk:Adolf Hitler, with quotes and sources to prove my point, trolling? Why my edits in Law and Justice and Unia Polityki Realnej articles were reverted? Is developing articles trolling? I practically created the whole Law and Justice article which was only two sentences before and, thanks to you, it is now. How was it "trolling"? W.J.M. 18:06, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

The explanation was included in the block reason, which you read, and I don't have to explain further. Karajou 00:10, 9 July 2012 (EDT) You wrote that I was "trolling in talk pages". This is not an explanation why my edits in Law and Justice and Unia Polityki Realnej were reverted. I wouldn't bother to ask again but I just don't know if there is any sense for me to edit anything here if it can be randomly labelled as "trolling" without any reason. W.J.M. 09:55, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

The page has no edit function, presumably because my account is recent? Maybe you might like to reconsider your harsh words. Pdorme 17:24, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

The page was unlocked, and not due to you being recent. If anyone needs to reconsider harsh words, it is you. You DO NOT come into THIS or ANY other website online and act as though you have rights here. Karajou 17:27, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

The claim that the Second Law of Thermodynamics disproves the Theory of Evolution has been discussed at length on this talk page. With all due respect, the arguments made by yourself and Mr. Schlafly are based on a misunderstanding of the law. The sources cited by User:Conservative in the article are guilty of the same faulty line of reasoning. Since the talk page discussion ended after I responded to Mr. Schlafly, I thought that might have cleared things up. Apparently not, since you still insist on keeping the claim in the article.

In reality, everything does not always become more disordered. The Second Law of Thermodynamics says no such thing, and this cannot be used as an argument against evolution. Individual objects/materials/subsystems can have decreases in entropy (increases in "order"), while overall net entropy (including surroundings) increases, satisfying the Second Law. Please let me know if this is unclear. --Randall7 21:27, 11 July 2012 (EDT)

The Second Law is quite clear, and I have made myself very clear on this, in that everything becomes disordered over time. You cannot hide that fact, nor can you walk away from it, nor can you ignore it, nor can you change it. It is on that point that evolution cannot work, and that article will show it. Karajou 21:50, 11 July 2012 (EDT) And I thought I made it clear that you have some severe misconceptions about what the Second Law of Thermodynamics actually says. It's a shame your mind is already made up about this matter, otherwise you just might learn something. Best regards, --Randall7 19:10, 13 July 2012 (EDT) Sorry to disagree with you Randall, but it is you with the closed mind; the evidence is all around you, but you just can't see the forest for the trees. Regards, Karajou 14:23, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Dear Karajou,

It seems that you protected the page before deleting it. Currently, the settings allow a new page to be created with this same title. Was this your intent? GregG 08:58, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Yes. Karajou 14:23, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Why delete Gallery of obese Christians and keep Gallery of obese atheists? Is it CP's policy to only brand obese people using negative labels? SharonW 14:43, 16 July 2012 (EDT) You don't have room to talk, SharonW. I'm very, very much aware of the "negative labels" you inflicted on a certain individual from within another website, as well as colluding with others to steal that website from him. Karajou 15:40, 16 July 2012 (EDT) I left Conservapedia because of the obesity equals all evil articles that are prolific here. What happened at the other site was the direct result of behavior over at the other site. The founder treated me rudely in private emails even though I had not done anything to earn his animosity. Why then would I support him afterward? SharonW 16:17, 16 July 2012 (EDT) The founder of that site OWNED IT. Period. The demand is for you to respect the site's owner and the site's rules. You don't walk into that website or any other site and demand changes to suit you. And from the looks of it, you're still here, and still whining. If you don't like this website; if you don't like any website you are in for that matter, then leave. Karajou 16:24, 16 July 2012 (EDT) No, there was the founder, and then there was the owner. The founder was not the owner; the founder did NOT pay the bills. User:JamesWilson admitted as much to me. Were you not aware of that? SharonW 16:33, 16 July 2012 (EDT) SharonW, I've been talking with George for nearly a year. The rules, the manual of style, the image tags posted on Ameriwiki, I wrote them and sent them directly to him. I also talked with the site's web server over a month ago. So, you know nothing. You've shown your true colors here. I'm ordering you to leave this website. Karajou 16:43, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Don't bring me into this. This is your battle. You usurped the owner of HIS OWN SITE. He would've stayed at the former location if he knew that he would have nothing to do about the hostile takeover of a certain gentleman. --James Wilson 16:40, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

I would like to ask, then, why Gallery of obese atheists not only has not been deleted, but appears to be permanently protected from deletion. I started a deletion discussion on the article, but User:Conservative moved the page, indefinitely protected it, and removed the deletion notice without addressing my concerns. GregG 15:45, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

I am also aware of this page [4]. GregG, you've been here since December, and have less than 1,000 edits. This website is an online encyclopedia, and we have topics within it which makes the liberal left howl. They don't like it when we prove evolution wrong, when we prove atheism wrong, when we show how much damage they have done to this country. So one of their tactics is to come into this site, make a few edits like they're the "good" guys, and then fly into a rage as to how bad user Conservative has been to them. As far as I'm concerned, they can cry me a river...somewhere else. Karajou 16:01, 16 July 2012 (EDT) I can assure you that I am not a part of the liberal left. In fact, I am a registered Republican. I admit that I disagree with some of the positions taken by some contributors on this wiki. I respect their views. What I do have concern about is when editors (and I'm speaking generally here, and not in reference to any one contributor) make contributions that drive away productive contributors and undermine the credibility of Conservapedia as a "trustworthy encyclopedia" and the beliefs that Conservapedia espouses. I can only imagine that if a Buddhist, or a believer in Hinduism, or an atheist comes to Conservapedia in a good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia and have their beliefs maligned at every turn by some contributors, their hearts will be hardened against God, as they may understandably believe every Christian to be like the editors on Conservapedia. It is because I support most of Conservapedia's positions and the entirety of Conservapedia's mission of building a trustworthy encyclopedia from a Christian conservative perspective that I spend time writing out my concerns in the hopes that they will be listened to. GregG 16:16, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Then the thing to do is 1) respectfully disagree; and 2) drop the subject and move on with something else. The howling left doesn't like to do that, and they're still howling. Karajou 16:28, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Thank you for the advice. One quick question: what would you suggest doing if a contributor (again, speaking generally, and not in reference to any particular user) comments on my faith; beliefs on the age of the earth, creation, or evolution; or physical stature and I don't want to debate or discuss those topics? I'm serious; I do want to know what to do for future reference. In hindsight, perhaps my foray into a QE! blog post at Talk:Main Page today was ill-advised, and I should not have commented. GregG 17:11, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Hi, just wanted to register my respectful disagreement with the 'gallery of obese atheists' page. I think deleting the 'gallery of obese christians' was a good start, but it would be nice if we got rid of both of them. thanks,Cmurphynz 01:17, 19 July 2012 (EDT) The point that I think you are missing CMurphy, is that the link between obesity and atheism is established and accepted to the standards required here at Conservapedia. Any link between some Christians and some obesity is merely incidental and there is no established causal link. Therefore the atheist page needs to stay whilst the Christian page has no place. Don't like it? You need to discuss the matter with User:Conservative, who knows all the relevant facts and the relevant research. --DamianJohn 02:34, 19 July 2012 (EDT) @DamionJohn: You are far too obvious.--VPropp 15:05, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

No, Sammyboy, you bring it on. You bring your little records, your little face, and make your case in front of me while we both face a U.S. Federal judge. Let's see if you got the guts to do so. Karajou 18:12, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

What's with all of the instant blocks on the site? I hope you're sure these people are causing trouble because I'd hate to think that valid conservatives could be getting banned for no reason. How do you know Scramon5 for example deserves a block? Furthermore, why are so many blocks being made for infinite time or years? --Jzyehoshua 03:34, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

I'm looking, and a lot of these people have no contributions, no talk pages, no user pages whatsoever. How are you able to decide right away they need to be blocked? I'm confused. Maybe I'm just not seeing something. IP addresses maybe? --Jzyehoshua 03:36, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

The many user names who you see getting blocked are actually just a few individuals who like to leave spam, like to harass, like to vandalize, and so on. Yes, I check them out first. See the message immediately below the warning sign at the top of this page. I won't play around with people who abuse this website. Karajou 04:05, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Just wanting to make sure you're getting the right people. I know you mis-assumed my Jzy account was involved with three accounts I've never heard of before. So I'm more than a little skeptical about your methods, because you sure got me wrong, that's for sure. I just wanted to make sure you're not banning wrong people and intentionally destroying the site's community, that's all. --Jzyehoshua 04:34, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Just how exactly do you know these people are vandals, anyway, if you don't mind me asking? They have no posting history. That leaves IP address I guess. But if that were the case, then how in the world did you think I was related to 3 accounts I never heard of before? You must be pretty loose with your IP tracking if so... I'd just like to know that you're not removing valid contributors. I've never seen a wiki just let admins block people right away, non-stop, who've never contributed before like this. It really looks bad, just let me say that, blocking people all the time who've left no evidence yet they are vandals. --Jzyehoshua 04:40, 22 July 2012 (EDT) I mean, I saw you completely misunderstand my Jzy account and call it related to 3 accounts I never heard of. And now I see you banning accounts which have zero posting history. Maybe you do know what you're doing with this. But right now it's pretty hard to understand how that can be the case, and I at least would like to have a better understanding of what's going on here, because frankly it looks like you're just guessing and maybe even deliberately sabotaging the site by kicking out new users who want to contribute. --Jzyehoshua 04:50, 22 July 2012 (EDT) And how did I misunderstand your Jzy account? Explain that one to me, by first explaining the significance of your IP address 141.0.8.155. Karajou 05:02, 22 July 2012 (EDT) You've got my IP address completely wrong. Maybe you need to update your software. My IP shows up here as 98.220.198.49. I can post again here or anywhere else that shows IP address if you don't believe me. This computer does have a router with several computers on it, but I don't know why that would make much difference. You think that's my IP though? Isn't that a Kansas IP address? You are WAYYY off, I'm in Illinois. --Jzyehoshua 05:16, 22 July 2012 (EDT) North Illinois to boot. I'm not too far from Chicago. That can't even be within 200 miles of me. This is just a regular desktop. I do have my settings configured to prevent cookies using a program called Vanilla Cookie Manager, a Chrome extension. I'm not even using Opera right now as my browser. I've got NO idea how you got that IP address. That is not even close... --Jzyehoshua 05:19, 22 July 2012 (EDT) That IP address came directly from your account as Jzy; you are the one who used it. Opera Software ASA, a confirmed proxy server, and that IP was also attached to four other names who vandalized the site. Karajou 05:29, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Well, I can login again to the Jzy account right now, though I don't know why that would make any difference. As far as I know I'm the only person using that account and that IP address shouldn't be anywhere near my location. I have no idea how you got that IP address for the Jzy account. Should be the same IP address for both accounts. I suppose I did buy a new computer recently on eBay, but that was from a guy in Colorado, which should still be nowhere near Kansas. I might have logged in via it at one point, but it's still through the same internet connection here in Illinois. Something's sure not adding up here. --Jzyehoshua 05:36, 22 July 2012 (EDT) I'm logged into the Jzy account now also, that one through Firefox, this one through Google Chrome. Same IP result? Or is it giving different results for both accounts? --Jzyehoshua 05:39, 22 July 2012 (EDT) IPs are picked up and recorded by most websites online, including all Mediawiki-based sites. Type something in using the Jzy account. Karajou 05:45, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Well, since the Jzy account is banned, where could I type it in at? I'm using the same computer to log into both accounts right now. I just can't write anything with the Jzy one. --Jzyehoshua 06:03, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Well, I'm going to assume that something in the Opera browser you said you had routed your internet connection through their proxy, and did so without you knowing it. The Jzy account is unblocked, I'm off to do whatever it is I do, so goodnight. Karajou 06:11, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Still blocked it looks like, or I'd post here with it so you can figure out the IP address. I still can't figure out how you got different IP addresses for the same location like that though. I wouldn't think different computers at the same address and internet connection should give completely different IPs, because that's the only thing I can think of. --Jzyehoshua 06:17, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Still no edit abilities for the Jzy one. It doesn't really matter though. However, I was editing back then through another computer, but again, it was through the same router at the same location. The other computer's having some unmountable boot volume issue now, so I haven't been using it the last few weeks. I still don't know why using it would alter IP address though, it shouldn't, since they're on the same internet connection. I thought IP was related to internet connection primarily, not the computer itself. The only way that would change anything is if going through the router is messing up the IP address for secondary computers. That'd be one big difference though, from a 98 IP address to a 141, for the same location. --Jzyehoshua 16:23, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

Same IP address? I'm using the same computer for both accounts.

Sorry if I came off as rude before by the way. I just get really concerned at the prospect other people on Conservapedia are being banned without reason. I'm happy to do whatever I can to make sure your IP system is working right.

I'm not able to use the computer I was originally using for this account now because again, it's got an unmountable boot volume issue. So before I was logging into this one through a different one. Thing is, they were both at the same location through the same internet connection. I suppose that one would've gone through a router though. --Jzy 16:29, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

The only thing I can think of is that maybe people going through a router rather than using their main computer show up as a 141 IP address for some reason, because there's otherwise no explanation I can think of for how my IP showed up the same as anyone else. As you should be able to see now, this is the same IP address for both accounts here, a 98 IP address. Which means maybe the other computer that's not working now showed up as a 141 address. But that was being used one room away from this one, so why it would show a 40 something difference in range I can't figure out. --Jzy 16:33, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

So what happened with the IPs? Does it show the 141 IP again at all? I'm curious what it's showing for the Jzy account. --Jzyehoshua 05:05, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

I checked, and you're accessing the site through the 98 IP address. It makes it more likely that the Opera software you once had did some unauthorized re-routing. You're good :) Karajou 13:00, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

Okay, just checking. :) I rarely even use Opera as a browser. Maybe I have some bug on the computer or something. I was really surprised I got any IP listed other than the 98 though. I can ban that other account of mine now if you want, I just wanted to show you it's a 98 IP. :) --Jzyehoshua 22:58, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

I suspect you meant apple/opera webkit, a commonly used api for http browsers. Chrome, firefox, opera and ie uses it.brenden 01:17, 22 August 2012 (EDT)

Any chance the people you're banning are in IP ranges, and you're actually seeing the IPs for their service hosts? Because I'm a bit confused why a spammer would create a bunch of accounts all at once like that... At some point, all these deletions look worse than if vandalism were committed. Any chance of waiting until vandalism is committed to act? If the IP address is in fact blocked for a spammer, then how can they be creating new accounts? Or do the new accounts just get blocked automatically? I just worry when I see accounts getting blocked who haven't had any contributions yet, that new users could be getting banned... --Joshua Zambrano 01:35, 28 July 2012 (EDT)

Obviously a wiki can't prosper if it's mistakenly banning all its new users. I'd just like to have as much peace of mind as possible that the right ones are getting banned. --Joshua Zambrano 01:45, 28 July 2012 (EDT)

I'll worry about the trolls; the good guys will still get in. Karajou 03:08, 28 July 2012 (EDT)

You wrote as the block reason for a 3-month block: "90/10 rule: excess of talk rather than edits to substantive entries: just here to gab, spout off how "superior" liberalism is to everything under the sun, and so on like a typical journalist". I counted his extant contributions, and he has 51 contributions to articles and 50 edits to talk and user talk pages (these numbers may be a bit off, since I counted manually and did not use an automated script). Of course, there might be edits that were deleted from the database that I don't know about (but that you would have considered). I trust your ultimate judgment, of course, but I think that a 3-month block for 51 article contributions and 50 talk page edits seems excessive, especially for behavior that does not appear to quantitatively violate 90/10. Thanks for your consideration, GregG 21:01, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Perhaps you are right. I'm going to remove the block, and count it as excessive. Karajou 21:06, 7 August 2012 (EDT) Thanks for the quick response! GregG 21:10, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

There's lots of vandalism happening at the moment and I can't revert some of it - can you help? EJamesW 14:29, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Did rigger45 really hack the air force or were you joking in your block summary? Georgrdarwinclark 21:43, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Why do you need to know? Karajou 22:01, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Hi Karajou, would you please email me? nate46373 at gmail. Thanks. Nate 22:40, 5 September 2012 (EDT)

Crush evolutionism like an aluminum can.jpgKarajou, Nate is seeing the writing on the wall that the religion of evolutionism is going to be further crushed and it is upsetting to him. Don't pay attention to his evolutionist pleading via email. Tell Nate that you think evolutionism needs to further be crushed and the faster it happens the better.

Nate needs to debate the 15 questions for evolutionists in a recorded debate that will distributed to 20,000 people. Tell him to contact Shockofgod or VivaRamones at http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 to set up the debate.Conservative 08:01, 6 September 2012 (EDT)

Guy, I'm Christian. Catholic. My religion is not "evolutionist". You know this. I'd rather debate you. I've challenged you before. You're the one who makes strong claims. Defend them. My Opus Dei center has a spearkerphone that can record calls. Let me know when you want to do the recorded debate and you can put it on Youtube. I don't know how to do it but you talk about it so much I'm sure you do. I am looking forward to hearing from you. I put my email address up there. Nate 00:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT) It is a religion: "Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, 'Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.'" Given the high traffic evolution/atheism articles, I have no shortage of unreasonable people wanting to debate me so you have to bring something bigger to the table to spark my interest. Ask fellow evolutionist Richard Dawkins to participate in the debate (Given his recent big loss in web traffic, he may want to participate). :) Conservative 00:20, 8 September 2012 (EDT) Are you saying I am not Christian? If you don't want to debate me why do you personally insult me and my Church? Going out of your way to do that and then complaining that I'm not bringing enough to the table for you to debate me looks like cowardice. Who is the unreasonable one? You keep talking about debating. It's not like you're too busy! Let's set up a very short debate so you can prove you have some machismo. I think you have none. I suggest we debate something fundamental so that I can prove to our audience that you know nothing except where your quotes are. I think you're just afraid you'll lose a theology debate to a guy who works in a steel plant. Prove me wrong. Nate 09:33, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

I have no problem with people who work in steel plants. Tomorrow, I am attending a gathering with a man who works at a steel plant. Nevertheless, you are still going to have to bring a lot more to the table to spark my interest. Consider asking members of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences to participate in the debate. I don't think that will help you though as they no doubt cannot satisfactorily answer the 15 questions for evolutionists.

By the way, User: GregG wrote to the Roman Catholic scientist Ken Miller some time ago about the 15 questions for evolutionists. He hasn't received a response. No doubt it was just an oversight on Ken Miller's part. :) Conservative 22:36, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

I think he's busy (he has an actual job). Nevertheless, it is interesting that he has not even auto-replied or declined. I can try contacting him by phone, though. GregG 23:32, 8 September 2012 (EDT) Nate, I think you can say Ciao! Ciao! to evolutionism! [5] I am open to debating you. You just have to give me an offer I can't refuse! :) Arrivederci! Conservative 01:41, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Creationist benchmark is hit and exceeded in the United States

Creation Ministries International breaks through key USA key benchmark! The first Question evolution! sound barrier has been breached. Watch the campaign grow faster and faster and faster. USA! USA! USA! Conservative 05:19, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

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Hi. This edit should be re-reverted; it's a redirect fixing an error in the title of the article (upper-case "T" for "the"), bringing it to the correct page. I'll do it, I just didn't want you to think I was reverting you for no good reason. Thanks. MattyD 12:25, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

I have no problem with your reversion. Karajou 12:37, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

Could you please take a look here? Many thanks. MattyD 09:59, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

you just blocked 11 users in five minutes. not bad :)Cmurphynz 02:17, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

Apparently, those claiming the immanent death of this wiki are not aware that I have a myriad of aces up my sleeves! Behold, Wikilog!

"Creativity is just connecting things. When you ask creative people how they did something, they feel a little guilty because they didn't really do it, they just saw something. It seemed obvious to them after a while. That's because they were able to connect experiences they've had and synthesize new things." - Steve Jobs

Untold contributors and web traffic is just on the cusp of the horizon! Conservative 20:30, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

This requires a new version of Mediawiki, that CP does not support. Also, I cannot imagine it would be helpful at all in the goal of being an encyclopedia.brenden 20:51, 24 September 2012 (EDT) "This requires a new version of Mediawiki, that CP does not support." Leave it up to a liberal to raise a trifling objection. Gentlemen, we can upgrade our wiki. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first online conservative encyclopedia with timely essays. Our wiki will be that wiki. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster![6] :) Conservative 21:05, 24 September 2012 (EDT) By the way, once the efforts to raise the prominence of Conservapedia's abortion article commence, I am looking forward to embed a pro-life video on the Conservapedia abortion article. Andy REALLY liked that idea. I previously embedded a pro-creation video on Conservapedia so it shouldn't be that hard to embed videos on Conservapedia since it was done before. In fact, we might be able to do it now. It is just a matter of time before all my extension requests are granted. :) Conservative 21:43, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

One other thing, speaking of upgrades, I plan on upgrading one of my prior initiatives to a whole new level. :) Plus, I plan on reintroducing a previous initiative of mine and bringing it to a whole new level too. :) Conservative 22:24, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

Can you help support my request for an upgrade of the software so we can cover subjects with an ampersand in their titles like AT&T Mobility v. Concepcion? Thanks, GregG ::22:38, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

Maybe that will come with a new MediaWiki upgrade required for Wikilog. Conservative 22:43, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

Karajou, have heard from Miss G lately? I was going to show her some of the pro-life content at Conservapedia.Conservative 22:43, 24 September 2012 (EDT) You know Peter LaBarbera really liked the some of the very well sourced articles I created. Do you think Wikilog could open a lot more conservative blogger doors? Something to consider, isn't? Conservative 22:52, 24 September 2012 (EDT) Given I can't seem to put stuff on your talk page Conservative and you seem to be active here I'll put this here. I've had a few ideas on the Christianity/Atheism and success/lack of in motorsport. These include people like Mark Webber thanking "the man upstairs" for lucky breaks and the like in races (and no I don't think he is meaning the stewards). Jenson Button and Felipe Massa also say similar things. Robert Kubica would be a good example to as he was carrying an item of Pope John Paul II (can't remember what it is) in his race suit when he had his massive crash during the 2007 Canadian GP in which he was lucky to only get a few cuts and a mild concussion (which was the reason why he didn't race in the next race due to the FIA's very strict and appropriate policy on concussions). He also had the same item with him when he won his first race in canada the following year and when he survived the crash he had in a rally car, in which was only 1cm from being impaled by a guard rail. Alex Zanardi, also a devout christian, survived an accident in germany in 2001, in which both his legs where amputated and he only had less than a litre of blood in his body (something which was thought to be unservivable at the time) his recovery is just as remarkable with him winning 2 gold medals in hand cycling at the recent paralympics in London. I have a few more ideas if you are interested. Regards Dvergne 23:02, 24 September 2012 (EDT) Contact NASCAR. Tell them your idea. Maybe they think their customers need convincing that atheism is bad and they will help you out.Conservative 23:21, 24 September 2012 (EDT) Nascar followers are fine they don't need convincing, its some of the F1 fans that need convincing (and thier number is tiny compared to the amount who follow and watch F1 as there are about 200 million viewers for every grand prix). Sorry to be of nuisance to you, I'll try and start the essay myself and see if you have any pointers. It's more the F1 blogs I'm aiming for as they are always eager for new stories so they can increase their page views as most use that to be part of the F1 travelling circus (ie go the all the GP's) Regards Dvergne 23:28, 24 September 2012 (EDT) Very well, lets bring this up on the Conservapedia:Community Portalbrenden 00:04, 25 September 2012 (EDT) I do however have a couple of contacts with Racing for Jesus and Racing for a reason that may be interested in the question evolution campaign by putting a couple of logos on their cars. Dvergne 00:34, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

Cheers for blocking the spammers, all they are doing is wasting time, both ours and theirs. If I ever see a user with a nonsensical name that has just created an account I always mark their talk page as spam, does doing this not allow them to write anything in it because they never seem to be able to put their rubbish there if I do that. Do you know if there is any was to blog users from registering if they have a username over a certain length, or if their username is just random letter ? Kind Regards --Dvergne 03:14, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

Cheers for blocking user:Mn18Hp23. I undid the other edits he made as he added some liberal lies to the pages. Regards. Dvergne 21:39, 5 October 2012 (EDT)

I read this recently at a wiki inhabited by many tightfisted atheists:

"That leaves us in a bit of a conundrum. Doing nothing will mean that our community is now "capped" at what it can support and further growth can not be supported. It means relying on technical issues and slow response to drive down or drive away additional traffic. This keeps our "costs" the same but is not ideal, and may ultimately be a destructive path to take. But doing something requires some major changes." See: Atheism and uncharitableness

What to do, what to do! How about a paywall like the liberals at the New York Times are doing? That wouldn't work. Who would pay to view that website? Nobody! It doesn't even have a Wikipedia article on it despite the fact that Wikipedia has a large, liberal, atheist contingent. Conservative 03:23, 8 October 2012 (EDT)

I tried to add some text to the cartoon, but wasn't allowed to do so:

"On Thursday October 11 2012, the Democratic Vice President Joe Biden and the Republican candidate for this office, Congressman Paul Ryan hold their only debate before the Presidential Election 2012."

I'd appreciate such a text to be included either under the cartoon or at the page of the cartoon to give a visitor to the main page some links into Conservapedia: as I said repeatedly, the Template:Mainpageleft should - well - lure a reader deeper into this site.

AugustO 08:11, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Sorry to disappoint you, but I add captions and/or dialogue to the cartoons prior to posting, and no captions will be included afterwards. Karajou 12:05, 15 October 2012 (EDT) I don't think of a caption, more of a subtitle. But if this doesn't please you, perhaps this text could be added to the page of File:VP_debate.jpg. Then a visitor who clicks on the cartoon doesn't end in a cul-de-sac, but will find some more links into content of Conservapedia. AugustO 13:15, 15 October 2012 (EDT) Like a "read more about it" type of thing. I could go with that concept. Karajou 13:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Hi, I've made a more visually friendly template for the periodic table, which can be seen on my talk page. Given you made the current version, would it be possible to replace the that template version with the one I have created. Regards --Dvergne 22:10, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Yes, by all means. Your version looks good. Karajou 01:06, 16 October 2012 (EDT) Cheers Dvergne 01:18, 16 October 2012 (EDT)

Might be best if you just archive it so we can start a new one. It is pretty long at the moment. Cheers for blocking him by the way, Although I don't agree with conservatives latest posting (I find some of the content quite offensive) I don't think that abuse is the way to solve problems. regards Dvergne 01:15, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Hello. I am a new editor here. I happened across the article for E-Sword, and noted that it has not been updated in about 5 years. The page was protected due to vandalism at the time. I would like to update the page, as the program has been significantly improved since that time. Since you are the one who protected the page (based on the page history), I wanted to ask you if it would be possible to unprotect the page so that I can edit it. Would that be possible, or is there some other preferred approach? Thanks in advance for your time! --Nouniquenames 00:06, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

Yes, please make improvements. Karajou 00:07, 18 October 2012 (EDT) Thank you! --Nouniquenames 00:31, 18 October 2012 (EDT) The page is updated now, in case you wanted to look over it. A request is in for an updated screenshot. Also, as I don't know who to ask this, when does the edit lock unlock in the morning? My understanding was that it is an overnight thing. Thankfully, it seems to engage after 02:00 EDT (01:00 EST). One of the times I can edit is until approximately then. I understood it to unlock again in the morning, but I have been unable to edit as late as around 14:00 EDT (13:00 EST). I was hoping to be able to do some late morning / early afternoon editing before work as my schedule allows. Can you confirm that the lock is working correctly or give me some guidance with it? --Nouniquenames 01:50, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

thanks for unlocking the page. fixed it a bit. Cmurphynz 11:15, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

I attempted to create a redirect at [7] from the short form C&MA to the Christian & Missionary Alliance (which uses that as a short-form reference). The software does not seem to like the ampersand, and treats the typed text as "C" (which seems to redirect logically to the programming language).

It may be best, if possible, to delete the redirect I created. I wanted to bring it to your attention. --Nouniquenames 13:45, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

Deleted. Karajou 14:28, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

Nice to see the bird articles are being updated. I didn't really want the page to be deleted, what i wanted was to spark a discussion to see if we want to keep these pages in the project. Dvergne 03:28, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

The original idea for Conservapedia is that it is to be a family-friendly online encyclopedia, so we are expanding and adding a great deal to it. Birds included.  :) Karajou 03:34, 21 October 2012 (EDT) Would it be ok if I started writing / finishing some of the bird articles ? Dvergne 03:02, 22 October 2012 (EDT) Yes it is OK; pick any article. Karajou 03:04, 22 October 2012 (EDT) There seems to be a lack of australian parrots I will start making them. But will need you to upload the pics when I need that to happen. Double-check the categories; I believed I uploaded most of them here: [8] Karajou 03:33, 22 October 2012 (EDT) You haven't done cockatiel yet :( Dvergne 08:36, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

On a completely unrelated topic, I found that there are a ton of articles an boats from AA to well AG, they seem like they are just cut and pastes from the dictionary of american warships. Why are they there and should they be deleted or should the project be continued. Given they are just cut and pastes from the dictionary or american warships I would personally think that those taken word for word from there be deleted unless the ship is especially noteworthy. Dvergne 08:36, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

I agree. But our detractors love hitting us with "plagiarism" charges about these and similar articles made from material in the public domain, and I think these articles should remain as a testimony against them. It's because they like Wikipedia so much that they cannot tolerate anyone else doing the exact same thing Wikipedia editors have done themselves. Karajou 11:27, 23 October 2012 (EDT) Fair enough, I just think that if people where looking for info on those ships they probably would have gone to the source (as the author of those articles on this site did. Back to birds, would it be possible to have more than one image for birds like the cockatiel and budgie who can have vastly differences between the domesticated and wild plumage ? Dvergne 23:11, 23 October 2012 (EDT) I'll probably delete many ship articles anyway, because of the lack of noteworthiness you mentioned. As to adding more bird pics, yes, that will happen as needed. There are differences between male and female, wild and domestic, and so on, and we'll add them in. Karajou 23:26, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Hello: I see you reverted my addition of detail to the article above. The article is fairly short and lacks some detail. I wrote it on a break this afternoon. I was not at home to cite from my library, but did not think it substantial changes. It is correct info. per: Weale, Adrian (2010), The SS: A New History, pp. 164, 168.; Lumsden, Robin (2002), A Collector's Guide To: The Allgemeine – SS, pp. 83, 84 and McNab, Chris (2009), The SS: 1923–1945, p. 158. I certainly don't want any problems, herein. This is a good website and I am sorry you guys have to spend so many hours on vandalism and spam. Anyway, I will be happy to cite the entries, if you would like. Cheers, John.

May you pls. unlock this page, I believe the reasons for locking it have disappeared (activity of this user). I'd like to have a chance to work occasionally on that page, if possible, thanx.--AK 09:52, 25 October 2012 (EDT)

I added a section to the King Tiger Tank article as to the Jagdtiger. But then decided, after some addition, it should be its own article page. I was hoping you could help me by finding a photo and uploading it to the page. I don't know where one can get a free use photo and upload it for this encyclopedia. Cheers, John. JohnJustice 13:16, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Done. Karajou 09:48, 5 November 2012 (EST) Great photo, thanks. I hope to write articles on the Tiger I, M4 Sherman tank and JagdPanther, when I have the time. Cheers, JohnJustice 10:55, 5 November 2012 (EST) I just wrote an article for the Jagdpanther. If you have the time could you find a photo for the article? I don't know how to upload, nor determine a fair-use photo. Thanks, --JohnJustice 22:12, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Hey there, I'm not really well versed with wiki editing so I hope this isn't the wrong way to request assistance. I previously was the user WalterP, and couldn't remember my password (or see a thing for password recovery but I could be blind.) Would it be possible for you to delete WalterP and this account so I could re-register as WalterP? Or is it ok for me to use this account even if it's named WalterP2? I don't want to make it look like I have more than one account.

Thanks! WalterP2 15:39, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Hello. I was hoping you might unlock the Karl Rove page so that I could add a section on his status as a Rino Backer, as well as his 1% success rate in the 2012 general election. Thanks, WilliamWB 22:10, 8 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure you know who I am. I am a sock puppeteer on this wiki. And I have come here to apologise. This is my real name, and I have had a sudden realisation that God is the only one who could have created us in this world. I saw the mountains of evidence throughout this wiki and changed my mind.

I hope to model myself after Shockofgod, and I humbly ask you, as a Christian and a person of forgiveness, something Jesus Christ our Lord preached so well, to accept my apology. JNeumann 08:03, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Dear Karajou: I agree that CP should be spam free. I was surprized that you deleted the short article that I created on P90X. I am not affiliated with that particular workout, and did not know anything about it until I started researching Paul Ryan's biography. He is a big fan of the workout and recruited other Congressmen to join him in doing it. So, I included it in his biography. I created the stub article to avoid a red link and to avoid leaving questions in the reader's mind as to what P90X was, because I did not know myself when I started my research. Anyone else who starts reading news reports on Ryan will wonder as well, so I think we need the article. Please reconsider. Thanks, Wschact 09:56, 16 November 2012 (EST)

I took your advice, re-read it, and agree with you. The article is restored, and I stand corrected  :) Karajou 10:19, 16 November 2012 (EST) Thank you for your consideration. Wschact 11:01, 16 November 2012 (EST)

Sent you an email good sir! Hope your holiday was great.--IDuan 15:09, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Finished that email we talked about. Let me know if it needs any touch ups or additions.--IDuan 00:54, 26 November 2012 (EST)

Aschlafly wrote the essay Mystery:Did Jesus Write the Epistle to the Hebrews?. This wouldn't have been to problematic, but now he puts his outlandish idea into an article in the main space (Epistle to the Hebrews). First he wrote:

"The Epistle to the Hebrews is the nineteenth book of the New Testament, and one of the greatest mysteries in all of intellectual history: the authorship of this brilliant work is unknown, and the most plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it."

User:Iduan toned this down somewhat, so that we read at the moment:

"The Epistle to the Hebrews is the nineteenth book of the New Testament, and one of the greatest mysteries in all of intellectual history: the authorship of this brilliant work is unknown, and one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it."

I couldn't find any Biblical scholar who shares this idea, I couldn't find any authorative figure who promotes this - and this isn't much of a surprise if you read the epistle for yourself! The only "scholar" who has proposed this "theory" in the last 2000 years is Andrew Schlafly.

I tried to delete this sentence, and then I tried to make it clear that this idea is a personal insight by Andrew Schlafly. My edits were reverted: any reader of this encyclopedia gets the impression that this theory is something commonly known or well discussed. That's utterly untrue.

I tend to be quite strict on Biblical matters - I'm often accused of being nitpicky. As one of the sysops of Conservapedia who was active in 2012 I ask you to weigh in on this problem: maybe it is just me and most of the of you and your fellow sysops think that it is acceptable to present an insight of a single person in a Biblical matter (an insight shared by virtually no one) as a plausible theory. But - as the title of this section indicates - for me this is a very serious matter.

--AugustO 19:25, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Let me ask you a question, AugustO...could Jesus have dictated Hebrews to Paul? Karajou 01:10, 26 November 2012 (EST) Pauls was inspired by the Holy Spirit - and he tells us so. But he never claimed that Jesus dictated something to him, especially not verbatim. --AugustO 02:46, 26 November 2012 (EST) I didn't ask you if Jesus did; I asked you if Jesus could have have done it. Karajou 03:49, 26 November 2012 (EST) Bullseye! Obviously with Jesus Christ everything is possible. But is it plausible? Isn't it misleading the reader to say that the most plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it? This idea is invented by Andrew Schlafly and therefore is his original work. In Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia we read: We allow original, properly labeled works, while Wikipedia does not. So the statement should be properly labeled! Something like: In 2012, Andrew Schlafly proposed the possibility that the epistle was written or dictated by Jesus Christ himself. --AugustO 04:16, 26 November 2012 (EST) What I think you need to do is to think about the fact that 1. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one (1 John 5:7); 2. if the Holy Spirit is doing the inspiring, then God is doing it; 3. if Jesus can stop Saul of Tarsus dead in his tracks on the Damascus Road after the Resurrection, if He can speak to John while he was on Patmos, then he can tell Paul what to write down in any of the epistles...in effect, making Him the author. In short, God does the inspiring, God does the dictating, God does the authoring; Moses, Jonah, Matt and Paul just work the pens. Karajou 10:26, 26 November 2012 (EST) Perhaps that is why I'm so often accused to be nit-picky: the Ten Commandments where dictated by God, written down by Moses. Here we have Gods Own words. The Gospels are the inspired truth of God in the words of the authors. Andrew Schlafly claims that Jesus himself wrote or dictated this epistle. That is much more than inspiring the author - or just telling him what to write down. And it is certainly not a plausible theory! --AugustO 10:42, 26 November 2012 (EST) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16. "All scripture" means everything in the Bible, Genesis to Revelation. Paul just supplied the ink. Karajou 11:18, 26 November 2012 (EST)

So is it fair to say that you have no problem with including the statement "the authorship of this brilliant work is unknown, and the most plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it" into the article Epistle to the Hebrews? --AugustO 11:23, 26 November 2012 (EST)

It's more obvious that you have a problem against it, August. If the human writer of Hebrews wasn't inspired to write it by God, then the above quote from Timothy is a complete and utter lie. Is Timothy in the New Testament? Is Timothy just a few letters behind Hebrews? Did Paul know Timothy? Is God's Word going to outlast Heaven and earth? Either all Scripture is inspired by God, or it's not. Karajou 11:39, 26 November 2012 (EST) All Scripture is inspired by God, but not all Scripture is written or dictated by God Himself, resulting in a verbatim transcript. The only example for this are the Ten Commandments (and perhaps Mene, Mene, Tekel, u-Pharsin). Therefore for me it is not plausible that Jesus wrote or dictated the Epistle to the Hebrews. And I ask again: User:Karajou, is it fair to say that you have no problem with including the statement "the authorship of this brilliant work is unknown, and the most plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it" into the article Epistle to the Hebrews? --AugustO 12:07, 26 November 2012 (EST) August, if you don't think it is plausible that Jesus wrote or dictated the Epistle to the Hebrews, then what specific alternative authors do you suggest? Surely you agree that someone wrote it.--Andy Schlafly 11:31, 26 November 2012 (EST)

I was talking to our tech guy at work about spam and where it came from and ways to stop it on forums, blogs and the like. He said their are organisations like spamhaus that collect details of various large spamming organisations so as to allow for those people to be blocked. He recommended that blocking those IP ranges would be a way to stop some spamming, so I did that as you can see. He also recommended that a good way to stop spam was to ask the spammers a question rather than use captcha or recaptcha as they basically just use cheap slave labour to solve them. Having an actual question would allow general users to register whilst stopping a large number of spammers. Dvergne 05:05, 14 December 2012 (EST)

I have also found a site called; stopforumspam, which lists known IP ranges that spam forums, wiki's and blogs. It seems that sites like Wikipedia and various large forums use this to collate where they are getting spam from and then block those IP's. I will start blocking IP's from those ranges as well. Dvergne 21:42, 14 December 2012 (EST)

I've set up a honeypot wiki, to track and monitor wiki spammers. If you want, I can give you checkuser priviledges there, so you can partake in the experiment/project yourself. Url, if you are interested. brenden 23:27, 17 December 2012 (EST)

It seems you last edit kinda killed MPR, with a link now half missing. Dvergne 21:15, 19 December 2012 (EST)

Fixed. I think what happened was the page did not load properly when edited, and got erased when posted. Karajou 21:22, 19 December 2012 (EST) Yeah, its always a pain when that happens. Dvergne 21:28, 19 December 2012 (EST) I'm blaming my own internet connection with the problem. It slowed down and sputtered during the past hour, and probably caused the MPR problem. Karajou 21:33, 19 December 2012 (EST)

I saw that you recently reverted an edit by another editor referring to Barack Obama's religion as Muslim. The editor placed a citation needed tag on the article, which was not is dispute of that information, but merely requesting an appropriate source be added to confirm that information.

I did some research on the subject myself, since I find it doubtful Obama is a Muslim, and the following links all would agree he is, at best, a Christian (possibly lasped) with, at best, some academic knowledge of Muslim traditions due to his family upbringing, but he himself is not an active believer in the Muslim faith.

As evidence, I present the following links:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1969392

https://my.barackobama.com/page/share/christian

http://atheism.about.com/od/barackobamareligionfaith/a/ObamaReligion.htm

http://www.ucc.org/news/obama-inauguration.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27775757/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155315/many-americans-cant-name-obamas-religion.aspx

I personally am not a fan of many policies of President Obama nor believe America has been served well by many of his policies, but by the same token I categorically reject the idea of having an article on a website purported to be educational which labels him as part of a religious tradition which he is not a practicing member, which his own words, his own church affiliations, and multiple news source all agree is true.

I do not wish to cause trouble for Conservapedia, so since this article seems to be an object of contention, I am presenting evidence for why his religious affiliation should be changed to reflect fact (he is Christian), and before I did anything, I felt it best to inform an administrator about my proposed course of action.

PatrickMarion 15:31, 31 December 2012 (EST)PatrickMarion

I would agree with you, but... First, there's no good way to approach this topic. Whether Muslim or Christian or atheist or agnostic, putting a cite tag on the block in Obama's article would be a good idea as well as a poor idea; there's just no good answer here. Second, for the "Muslim" side of things, we have it on record that while he does not go to a mosque every Friday, he has given his support to Muslims everywhere world-wide, beginning with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. As far as being a Christian, he is certainly not one. He can spout that label all he wants, but a Christian follows Christ. A Christian will never support abortion, same-sex marriage, attacks on the wealthy; nor would he give support to Muslims anywhere in the world when these same groups (are you reading this, Muslim Brotherhood?) are viciously attacking Christians up to and including murder. Karajou 15:47, 31 December 2012 (EST) I understand your position, sir, and I do find that many of the President's actions are at odds with his stated faith, so perhaps adding (alleged) next to his religion identification would suffice, and the article can explain why the label does not agree with his publicly expressed morality.

PatrickMarion 16:02, 31 December 2012 (EST)PatrickMarion

How about something like the following: "Christian (claimed)"; "Muslim (alleged)"; "Agnostic/atheist" ... those would have to be proven, of course; "Socialist/communist" ... he could very well worship both of those philosophies, much like being going to church. Or a line that says "see below", and in the article there would be a subtopic detailing his Christian claims, his Muslim history, reasons why he's not one or the other, and so on. I like this aspect a little better because this site and others made claims he was Muslim; if that is the case we have to explain it in detail. If he's Christian, we have to explain in detail the origins of the claims, as well as why he's actually not. Socialist/communist, atheist/agnostic, yes we must explain that as well. Karajou 00:43, 1 January 2013 (EST) That sounds like a good call. Since this a website which examines topics from a conservative point of view, your proposed solution sounds like it would cover all the bases equally while adhering to the POV policies of Conservapedia. PatrickMarion 02:42, 1 January 2013 (EST)PatrickMarion It would be on a topic possibly called "Obama's religious beliefs", and would explain it several ways. In the Muslim portion, what is there to establish his Muslim belief system (early education, etc), and what is he doing today that would be supportive or combative to the Muslim religion; likewise his Christian belief system, where did he go to church, what kind of church, is what he believes compatible with what the Bible says he should be doing as a Christian. It could be a stand-alone article itself. Karajou 02:52, 1 January 2013 (EST)

I know my infinite block is coming here in just a few seconds but... how do you expect this place to ever grow if you just block everyone you disagree with? You ever try just talking to people? --GeralfM 11:48, 25 January 2013 (EST)

And what were the reasons why I block people? Please tell me, the world is waiting. Karajou 12:34, 25 January 2013 (EST) See, it is hard to talk to trolls - like yourself - who are only here to cause problems, and it is based on those problems that I block those trolls. Like yourself. Now go take a bath. Karajou 12:41, 25 January 2013 (EST)

This is meant to be more of a private message, so feel free to delete this if you want. I don't know you history with this MattyD, but to ban him for saying that a link between Conservapedia and Sandy Hook Hoaxers problematic seems to be going a little to far. I realize that he thought/said that it was Conservapedia's official twitter feed...but seeing the Conservapedia logo, that could be an honest mistake. Whatever his intent though, he was right....linking Conservapedia to Sandy Hook hoaxers is problematic. The author of the tweet appeared to endorse the nutty idea that Sandy Hook did not occur at all. Furthermore, he did it with a logo that made it look like it was the view of conservapedia. If I were to do that with my company's logo, I would be unemployed. The fact that the article also spoke of the media's failings is irrelevant. You could probably find Holocaust deniers, or "truthers" complaining about the faults of media, but linking to them would be foolish. --PeterNant 19:51, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Keep him banned. He went for the tattletale angle. He wanted to create as much noise as possible. All he did was read our critic website and decided to take action. He can read there all he wants but he can't edit here any more.--Jpatt 20:07, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Take a look at User:Richt03. I think he's taking the micky. Or he has a dash-hyphen fetish. (Never seen one of them before!) I've banned him for the day but I think he needs stopping. If he gets into colons it may be too late. AlanE 22:17, 31 January 2013 (EST)

Looked, saw, and he's gone now. Karajou 01:04, 1 February 2013 (EST)

The articles I've checked seem to be okay (Ra, Ramses II, Ancient Egypt) - as was the article on Magdeburg. I googled some of the content of the first revisions, and it seems that those aren't copies of other articles neither. Perhaps you could recreate the other articles on Egypt in this list (one or two a day), so that we can check them? There are a few articles on German subjects (Claus von Stauffenberg, Max von Baden) which I'd like to see, too...

I don't think that being a creation of parodist is enough to delete an article: only parodies should be deleted. The articles on Egyptian subjects seem to be original, and contain quite a few nice pictures - which seem to be duly copyrighted, too.

--AugustO 10:37, 8 February 2013 (EST)

Lucky you caught that pathetic vandal before he made an even bigger mess. Well done mate ! Dvergne 08:40, 10 February 2013 (EST)

Can you please redirect the article Libyan War 2011 to Libyan War? --Alex00 10:41, 10 February 2013 (EST)

and the article Libyan uprising 2011 --Alex00 10:49, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Thanks for adding the categories - it makes it easier to put pictures to various articles. Could you please restore Amun, Karnak and King list? Thanks again! --AugustO 14:57, 11 February 2013 (EST)

I half expected Markman to revert the talk page because of an earlier discussion on my talk page where I asked him to contribute to it. I didn't think he would be so maliciously petty though. 300 words in 21 edits in 52 months is not a talkfest. About 6 words a month. To me it was a bit of light relief. Innocent merriment. For you to end the whole thing with no discussion I find extremely disappointing. AlanE 12:56, 1 March 2013 (EST)

OK, K, why? What have I done to deserve this? AlanE 21:10, 6 March 2013 (EST)

Specifically, what is wrong with these edits? The article is 5 years out of date and in need of updating. I have more than two months work time in it already. OscarO 21:37, 6 March 2013 (EST)

Hello, can you please upload the new flag of Burma ? --Alex00 10:15, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

And can you rename the File:Flag of Libya 1951.png to File:Flag of Libya.png ? Hi there are no flags or coat of arms of the following countries:Dominican Republic, Grenada, Saint Lucia, Jamaica, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and Saint Kitts and Nevis --Alex00 14:36, 26 March 2013 (EDT) And Trinidad and Tobago --Alex00 14:38, 26 March 2013 (EDT) I'll have to search for them a little later, but they will be found and added. Karajou 14:39, 26 March 2013 (EDT) I dont want to be unpolite but when will you uploud those flags and coat of arms? --Alex00 12:15, 7 April 2013 (EDT)

Still trying to limit my talk activity lol (not that it's excessive but not sure how it's scored..by word count or number of times, cause sometimes I can occasionally get wordy!) but anyways, I was fixing to create an article that was deleted (for the television show Breaking Bad) i saw that it had previously been deleted by you. I wanted to know if it was safe to recreate it as i wasn't sure if his contribution was wildly inappropriate or Conservapedia would have objections for it being listed as one of their articles. --DavidS 02:39, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

I noticed you blocked that user as "sock of Brendan". I would like to assure you that Rmacdugal was not me. The most probable reason was that the user simply signed up from one of the school's computers. brenden 14:20, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

I unblocked him on your advice. Karajou 15:02, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

I think that this user is possibly pulling our leg and is actually a sock of Horace (given that the original phrasing Carpe'diem was from a work by Horace Flaccus). Could you please run a detailed checkuser on this account. Cheers Dvergne 09:02, 6 April 2013 (EDT)

Hi. Mind if I undelete Liberals and friendship? I think Michael Medved and others make some good points about the political pressure liberals put on their "friends". --Ed Poor Talk 17:29, 7 April 2013 (EDT)

Please do. Karajou 09:36, 8 April 2013 (EDT)

Can you please uploud these pictures? http://middle-east-info.org/league/iran/usdiplomatshostageiniran.gif --Alex00 12:52, 11 April 2013 (EDT) Or this http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2011/9/30/201193041012723734_8.jpg and this one https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTCdYRmvD9ZyPzo-HYnN3Aqm3SRe2kWRmCRWeB1r_h71EAKTJh6PWnwmgvrJFPvEVvm7jMrdQZm-oxMq5ZTggjadYLkfNnUe_9rjFTxE7n5jVDFBw9hcScNJQqzKitfPAThsuID4EYNXk/s1600/Gadafi.jpg --Alex00 13:01, 11 April 2013 (EDT)

Hi, I created a page for this church at wikipedia but they deleted it (despite the fact it met their so-called "standards", which are arbitrarily applied). It's my work entirely, saved on my computer. So, I'd like to try to post it again.--Yeoberry 09:03, 12 April 2013 (EDT) p.s. I also wrote most of the article on Gail Riplinger.--Yeoberry 09:10, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

I need to know why you deleted my very valid questions (with provided evidence) from the main talk page for "RW references" while Conservative regularly posts references to it on the Main page as "an atheist wiki". I did not like to RW and I did not support them, I linked to graphs on Alexa.com disproving Conservative's uncited claims. I'm going to be completely honest, I personally feel like it can be only one of two explanations at this point:

There's a double standard consisting of conservative being able to do whatever he wants and everyone else expected to fall in line behind him... It was the fact that I used "RW" instead of "an atheist wiki" as a codeword for that other site...

I sincerely hope it's the latter if it's either of those, but I hope even more that it is some other explanation. I look forward to hearing back from you. Fnarrow 09:13, 20 April 2013 (EDT)

You know how quite a few of the pages about birds you created do not have much text or only have text and a picture. Well I had an idea that maybe it should be suggested that new users add content to those articles. That way we would weed out troublemakers whilst also adding content. Would love to hear your thoughts regarding this issue. Cheers, Dick Dvergne 00:51, 21 April 2013 (EDT)

A large number of them do not have much beyond a taxonomy box, but they were put in place as it just to get them properly categorized. Anyone is free to add content as needed. Karajou 01:54, 21 April 2013 (EDT)

As a administrator can you unblock the page Kentucky Fried Chicken, so i could write on it?--Alex00 13:16, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

Hi, Karajou. I offered to let a recently blocked user return, provided he follows my advice. Is this okay? --Ed Poor Talk 18:03, 28 April 2013 (EDT)

It's Okay; unblock him. Karajou 22:20, 28 April 2013 (EDT) I did. Thanks! --Ed Poor Talk 09:28, 29 April 2013 (EDT)

I blocked and warned Karegador, because of his Women in combat edit; see his talk page. --Ed Poor Talk 11:06, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

I thought his edits were pretty silly, too. Karajou 11:23, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Could we have an article called Old Testament moral rules and modern interpretatinos of odd-sounding passages like Deuteronomy 22:28-29? We could present the rebuttal to the anti-Christian point that the newbie was trying to support. --Ed Poor Talk 11:55, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

I think we should have such a page. Karajou 11:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Okay, I'm just getting started and don't have time to finish anything today. The deleted article now redirects to Old Testament morality, which in turn redirects to Rape#Punishment for rape. --Ed Poor Talk 12:08, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Hi, I feel you might be the most knowledgeable about this topic, so, do you know what the process for naming ships are? Is there any protocol, or is it simply a committee-based process?

Thanks, brenden 00:32, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

Ship naming is the responsibility of the Secretary of the Navy, after input submitted to the Chief of Naval Operations. This website [9] should help you out. Karajou 00:45, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

Karajou, as the title of this section indicates, I've been thinking about the Titanothere picture and related questions you supplied under the heading: Pretty Dogmatic on the Main Talk Page and trying to come up with the best way to express myself in regards to them. Unfortunately, in that intervening time the thread has been slightly derailed and I wanted to make sure you and I got the chance to discuss this one on one. Therefore, I figured this would be the best place to respond. Total honesty, my answer to all of your questions at this point would have to be "I don't know." I know nothing about the authors or the animals depicted(other than what a quick Google search turned up...), and therefore cannot speak to their methods, claims or anything else on the specific topic of your question. I assume (please, correct me if I'm wrong so I can answer properly) that the purpose of your question was to ask if evolution in general is "falsifiable" and that is a question I can answer through my personal beliefs. First, let me state the following to clarify my starting point here:

If those findings were presented as a "theory" then I have no problem with it as the author is therefore simply just stating "this is the answer which best fits the current evidence as viewed with currently available scientific techniques." This makes the statement falsifiable by leaving open the possibility that new evidence and techniques could change our understanding of the topic (as appeared to have happened with the Titanotheres(WP article has nice chart, couldn't find it else where, sorry) based upon the new classifications presented in 2004-2005) thereby falsifying the earlier conclusions. In this case the answer to your questions would be "yes, the statements are true and falsifiable". However, if they are presented as a "fact" or "scientific law" then the authors are claiming that their conclusions are tested, repeatable and therefore cannot be disproved. In the latter case, I would say that the answer to your questions were "no, they are not true statements because the author is claiming they are unfalsifiable".

Now, for the second implied question (Once again, please correct me if my assumption is wrong so i can answer properly) is "Why eliminate God from science?" The only answer I can give is that in my opinion, I could be proven wrong in the future, God is currently and will always be beyond the ability of science to measure or even detect. This does not mean God doesn't exist, it only means that science can never speak either way on the existence of God. I hope this clarifies my stance as an Agnostic Christian and how I do not see any contradiction in that position. Thank you for your thoughtful, intelligent response; I'm looking forward to hearing back from you and continuing this discussion with out the intrusions from trolls and vandals on the main page. Thanks, Fnarrow 16:39, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

Would really like to hear your thoughts on this... Thanks, Fnarrow 00:54, 10 May 2013 (EDT) For the titanothere pic, the author claimed descent via evolution from one animal (the one at the bottom) through to the one at the top. What he did - and what others continue to do to this day - is to look at the animal bones and pronounce a judgement. That's it. They say "look at the animals", and we stand there looking at this made-up sequence one to another, and we are to assume a change took place. That most certainly is not science; it is little more than a guessing game based on opinion and innuendo, and yes, the typical evolutionist who makes such a claim cannot get past the first step of the scientific method when push comes to shove after a demand is made that he prove it. For that reason this website cannot and will not accept evolution as anything other than a mere theory. As far as God is concerned, I would have to agree with some people who say that God is not testable; He doesn't fall under the "falsifiability" test. That does not mean He doesn't exist; to me, it means He doesn't have to cooperate. For example, a couple years ago some college kid(s) sent me a flyer of their efforts to conduct a scientific survey; I did not answer. They sent it again. I ignored them. A third time, and and I got the idea that they were going to demand it; I shut them down via the college administration. The point here is I did not have to cooperate at all with anyone conducting an unwanted survey, and for similar reasons God is just going to ignore someone making a scientific falsifiability test demand on Him. Those are my thoughts on the subject. Karajou 01:21, 10 May 2013 (EDT)

Could you please explain to me why you reverted my edits to the Whales page? I thought that all my edits were quite reasonable.--DTSavage 11:23, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Please explain the word "cetartiodactyla". Karajou 11:40, 7 May 2013 (EDT) Sure. Recently, scientists have begun using "cetartiodactyla" to represent a monophyletic group containing both the cetaceans and the even-toed ungulates (artiodactyls).--DTSavage 11:47, 7 May 2013 (EDT) I don't want this to turn into some kind of edit war, but i do believe that most of my edits were of good quality, so I'm going to re-revert most of my edits, though I'll leave out the changes I made that refer specifically to cetartiodactyla. I hope that's an OK compromise.--DTSavage 18:42, 7 May 2013 (EDT) OK, definately no edit war. This term "cetartiodactyla" is a new term, and yes, it was done to suggest a relationship between whales and deer, cows, pigs, sheep, and so on. But it also suggests descent, meaning some time ago some ancient deer decided on its own to give up salad for a career in fishing. And just who's to say it's true? Why not call it "chiroptocetacea"? Do whales use sonar like bats? How about "homocetacea"? Do some people claim whales have the same brain power as man? In this evolution business, there is always someone making something up without any supporting evidence beyond their own observations, and they insist that it's true, that we must believe it. Karajou 21:09, 7 May 2013 (EDT) Reasonable concerns. I guess I'll stick to making edits to biology-related articles that won't stir up creation vs evolution debate.--DTSavage 22:19, 7 May 2013 (EDT) My own preference for the various articles is to have a subtopic titled "evolutionary claims", which is what evolutionary scientists have stated over the years about it. Of course, it will also be refuted, but both sides of the argument will be presented, leaving the reader to make up his/her own mind. Karajou 01:37, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

You recently locked the abortion article, stating, "Will not have the subject watered down, there's nothing medical about it." I have two problems with the lock. First, this was a day or so after Coservative reverted my edits (no reason given), and so the article wasn't even being actively vandalized* at the time. Second, the edits I had made may have seemed to "water down" the issue, but seeked only for a more factual article. For example, when I changed "liberals" to "many liberals," I was only trying to be correct; some liberal are pro-life, just as some conservatives are pro-abortion. I additionally updated the abortion count from 54m to 56m and cited a source on fetal pain, which should strengthen the article. GVolkov 21:07, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

Only asking because I have an interest in The US Military and intend to write some essays on it. I don't want "step on your toes" so if you spot any incorrect information I will take no offence if it is edited. In fact I would welcome it. Also would a Band of Brothers article be appropriate for the Greatest Conservative Movies/TV category? To me it does but I have to say although I am quite knowledgeable about the US Military, American political definitions somewhat baffle me. Thanks --Patmac 21:51, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

I see you deleted the sarcy remark by the last user. Rank is no reflection on the character of a soldier/sailor/airman. Privates, captains or generals are all worthy of respect.--Patmac 14:53, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

User: Brendon is attempting to engage in liberal censorship of civil discussions because he is unhappy on how the liberal side fared in a recent discussion. Brendon recently did this on the main page talk page on a discussion about liberal Christianity. I am beginning to think Brenden should lose his editing privileges for awhile or perhaps permanently.

What are your thoughts on this matter? Conservative 16:34, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

User:Karajou, I feel that your opinion would fair and non-partisan. I ask you, therefore, to quickly browse through the history of the offending page, and see really, who is at fault.

Thanks again for your assistance, brenden 16:37, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

Hi. Could you unlock this article, please? The opening claim is false: details can be found on the talk page and verified here. Thanks, JohanZ 12:53, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

Dear Karajou,

I see you blocked this user with the reason "Trolling: vandalism, nonsense inserted...just plain nuts". I only see three edits of his, none of which I think constitutes trolling or vandalism:

I'm not going to overturn your block without your permission, but I just wanted to let you know how I saw things with respect to this user so that you can (if you want) reevaluate whether the user should be blocked forever. Thanks, GregG 10:44, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

I've got to go pick my wife up from the airport so I do not have any more time to get bullied or try defending the article. Markman is adding gay pornography and a song about beating someone with a baseball bat to the Conservative Songs article. The other Ramones song is not what he says. Please have a look at this situation. Nate 21:43, 23 June 2013 (EDT)

One of the songs in question supports corporal punishment, the whole thing about the baseball bat is just an exaggeration for humor's sake. The other song in question portrays gays as promiscuous and depraved, just what conservatives have been saying about them all along. It seems as if NKeaton is simply trying to censor info that does not comport with his lib beliefs and his support for the homosexual agenda. - Markman 21:49, 23 June 2013 (EDT) I haven't checked Markman's contribs to that article (I disagree with the idea of "conservative songs" altogether), but his block comment of "idiot" was disquieting. brenden 22:05, 23 June 2013 (EDT) He was throwing accusations at me, I merely retaliated. - Markman 22:09, 23 June 2013 (EDT) You don't need to retaliate. At any rate, Mr. Schlafly agreed with Nate here, so it's really a moot point. brenden 22:11, 24 June 2013 (EDT)

Please uploud the flag and the coat of arms of Benin, Saint Lucia and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.--JoeyJ 10:00, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

And I forgot the Republic of China.--JoeyJ 10:47, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

Can you point to any specific block you found problematic? - Markman 07:29, 3 July 2013 (EDT)


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The Republic of Belarus is a country in Eastern Europe and former constituent republic of the USSR. The capital of Belarus is Minsk. Alexander Lukashenko rules his country dictatorial. During a visit in Warsaw, The Republican candidate for the Presidential Election 2012 Mitt Romney said:

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Belarus is a land-locked country, sharing a common border with the Baltic States of Latvia and Lithuania, Poland, Russia, and Ukraine. The country is generally low-lying, with marshes and thick wooded areas. The Dnieper, Prypyats, and Nyoman rivers are its major waterways.

Area: 207,600 sq. km. (80,100 sq. mi.); slightly smaller than Kansas. Cities: Capital--Minsk. Terrain: Landlocked, low-lying with thick forests, flat marshes and fields. Climate: Cold winters, cool and moist summers, transitional between continental and maritime. Population (July 2009 est.): 9,648,533 (urban 73%; rural 27%). Population decline (2009 est.): -0.378%. Ethnic groups (1999 census): Belarusian (81.2%), Russian (11.4%), Polish (3.9%), Ukrainian (2.4%), Jewish (0.3%), other (0.8%). Religions (2004 est.): Eastern Orthodox 80%, Catholic 14%, Protestant 2%, other (including Autocephalous Orthodox, Jewish, Muslim, and Krishna) 4%. Languages: Belarusian and Russian (official). Education: Literacy--99.6%. Health: Infant mortality rate (2009 est.)--6.43/1,000. Life expectancy (2009 est.)--70.63 years (men 64.95 years, women 76.67 years). Work force (4.3 million as of December 31, 2005): Industry—34.7%; agriculture and forestry--14%; construction--7.9%; transportation, communications--7.6%; trade, catering--12.2%; education--10.7%; other--24.3%.

The constitution provides for a directly elected president who serves a 5-year term. The bicameral parliament consists of the 64-seat Council of the Republic and the 110-seat House of Representatives. The Council of the Republic is the house of territorial representation. Eight members of the Council are appointed directly by the president of the Republic of Belarus, while local regional councils elect the rest. The deputies to the House of Representatives are elected directly by the voters. The president appoints the prime minister, who is the head of government.

Since his election in July 1994 as the country's first President, Alyaksander Lukashenka has consolidated power steadily in the executive branch through authoritarian means and has dominated all branches of government. He used a non-democratic referendum in November 1996 to amend the 1994 constitution to broaden his powers and illegally extend his term in office. He began to count his 5-year term in 1996, thereby adding 2 years to his first term in office. Based on the unrecognized 1996 constitution, Lukashenka announced that presidential elections were to be held in 2001. In 2004, he engineered a fraudulent referendum that removed term limits on the presidency. Independent exit polling of the referendum showed results far different from those officially announced. In 2006, Lukashenka "won" another term in an undemocratic election. In January 2007, he further consolidated his rule through local elections that failed to meet international standards.

In October 2000, parliamentary elections occurred for the first time since the disputed referendum of 1996. According to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (OSCE/ODIHR), these elections failed to meet international democratic standards. International monitors noted sweeping human rights violations and undemocratic practices throughout the election period, including massive vote-counting fraud. These irregularities led the OSCE/ODIHR to find that these elections failed to meet Belarus' OSCE commitments for democratic elections. March 2003 local elections and October 2004 parliamentary elections also failed to meet international standards of freedom and fairness. OSCE/ODIHR observers declared that the parliamentary elections fell far short of international standards, citing abuses in the campaign period and the vote counting.

The March 19, 2006 presidential election marked another low point in the government's treatment of its own citizens. OSCE/ODIHR observers noted that the election failed to meet international standards, was characterized by a disregard for the basic rights of freedom of assembly, association, and expression, and included a highly problematic vote count. Authorities detained many opposition and civic activists during the campaign and used force against demonstrators protesting the fraudulent election. Opposition presidential candidate Alyaksandr Kazulin was beaten and arrested during post-election protests. He was sentenced to a 5-year jail term. The Belarusian authorities released Kazulin on August 16, 2008.

Belarus held parliamentary elections in late September 2008. Despite Belarusian authorities’ public assurances that the elections would be “unprecedentedly” democratic and transparent, the OSCE/ODIHR election observation mission determined the elections fell short of OSCE standards. The authorities denied registration for approximately 20% of opposition candidates as well as candidates overall. While candidates were allotted their mandatory campaign airtime on various media outlets, restrictions on this access made it difficult for candidates to adequately present their platforms to the public. OSCE/ODIHR observers noted good access to polling stations during early voting and election day. However, the Belarusian authorities fell short on access for OSCE/ODIHR and other observers to the vote count, a crucial aspect for determining the transparency of the elections. OSCE/ODIHR observers assessed transparency of the vote count to have been bad or very bad in 48% of observed cases. The OSCE recognized minor improvements in the conduct of the elections, but the lack of a transparent vote count made it impossible to determine the validity of the elections. The Department of State issued a statement following OSCE/ODIHR’s preliminary assessment, expressing disappointment with the failure of the Belarusian elections to meet international standards.

President--Alexander Lukashenko Prime Minister--Mikhail Myasnikovich Foreign Minister--Sergei Martynau Ambassador to the U.S.--Mikhail Khvostov Ambassador to the UN--Andrey Dapkiunis

Under an arrangement with the former U.S.S.R., Belarus was an original member of the United Nations. It also is a member of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS - a group of 12 former Soviet republics) and its customs union, the Belarusian and Russian Union State, the Eurasian Economic Community, the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's (NATO) Partnership for Peace, the North Atlantic Cooperation Council, the Non-Aligned Movement, the International Organization for Migration (IOM), the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank.

Following the recognition of Belarus as an independent state in December 1991 by the European Community, EU-Belarus relations initially experienced a steady progression. The signature of the Partnership and Cooperation Agreement (PCA) in 1995 signaled a commitment to political, economic, and trade cooperation. Significant assistance was provided to Belarus within the framework of the TACIS technical assistance program and also through various aid programs and loans. However, progress in EU-Belarus relations stalled in 1996 after serious setbacks in the development of democracy. The EU did not recognize the 1996 constitution that replaced the 1994 constitution. Neither the PCA nor its trade-related elements were implemented, and Belarus was not invited to join the EU's Neighborhood Policy. Belarusian membership in the Council of Europe was not supported, bilateral relations at the ministerial level were suspended, and EU technical assistance programs were frozen. In 1998, relations were further worsened when President Lukashenka evicted several western ambassadors from their homes in the Drozdy area of Minsk. In 2004, the Council of Europe adopted a report written by special rapporteur Christos Pourgourides calling on Belarusian authorities to suspend various high-level officials after conducting a thorough investigation of the cases of several prominent Belarusian political figures who have disappeared and remain unaccounted for. In line with the U.S., the EU spoke strongly against the government's conduct of the 2006 election, noting that additional restrictive measures would be imposed against those officials responsible for abuses. After the election, the U.S. and EU imposed travel restrictions and financial sanctions against those responsible for abuses. The EU also launched a two-year, two million Euro project to support Belarusian access to independent information, which complements U.S. assistance programs. In June 2007, the EU announced the withdrawal of GSP trade preferences for Belarus, following an assessment by the International Labor Organization that Belarus had not acted to ensure the protection of labor rights and freedom of association. After the September 2008 parliamentary elections, the EU issued a statement expressing its concern about the conduct of the elections, which despite some progress did not correspond to the OSCE’s democratic standards. In October 2008, the EU suspended its visa sanctions for six months on numerous Belarusian officials, including President Lukashenka, in response to Belarus’ release of political prisoners in August; this suspension has been extended until December 2009. In May 2009, the EU invited Belarus to take part in the Eastern Partnership Initiative.

Acknowledging the lack of progress in relation to bilateral relations and the internal situation following the position adopted in 1997, the EU adopted a benchmark approach in 1999, whereby relations would be gradually improved upon fulfillment of the four benchmarks set by the OSCE. In 2000, some moderately positive developments toward the implementation of recommendations made by the OSCE Advisory and Monitoring Group (AMG) were observed, but were not sufficient in the realm of access to fair and free elections. The Belarusian authorities, objecting to the OSCE AMG's activities, forced it to shutdown by failing to renew visas or extend accreditation of its professional staff. The Belarusian authorities agreed to a successor OSCE presence after 14 EU member countries and the U.S. imposed visa restrictions on the travel of high-ranking Belarusian officials. The OSCE Office in Minsk formally came into existence on January 1, 2003 with a mandate to "assist the Belarusian authorities in further promoting institution-building, in further consolidating the Rule of Law and in developing relations with civil society, in accordance with OSCE principles and commitments."

Russia is the largest partner for Belarus in the economic and political fields. In terms of trade, over one-third of Belarusian exports go to Russia. Due to the structure of Belarusian industry, Belarus relies heavily on other CIS countries, and Russia in particular, both for export markets and for the supply of raw materials, subsidized energy, and components. The steep increase in the price of natural gas in 2007, as well as higher tariffs on Russian-sourced oil and oil products, has contributed to a crisis in the Belarusian economy, forcing the regime to cut popular subsidies and to borrow from outside sources to finance the budget. Belarus received a $1.5 billion stabilization loan in late 2007 and a $2 billion loan in late 2008 from Russia.

The framework for the Russia-Belarusian Union was set out in the Treaty on the Formation of a Community of Russia and Belarus (1996), the Treaty on Russia-Belarus Union, the Union Charter (1997), and the Treaty of the Formation of a Union State (1999). The integration treaties contain commitments to monetary union, equal rights, single citizenship, and a common foreign and defense policy. They also have established a range of institutions modeled after the EU. After protracted disputes and setbacks, the two countries' customs duties were unified as of March 2001. Belarus has made progress in monetary stabilization in the context of ongoing negotiation with the Russian Central Bank on monetary union. However, Belarus has repeatedly pushed back the date for implementing a monetary union. A dispute with Russia in late 2006 and early 2007 over gas prices and oil import duties raised further doubts about the future of the union, and many of the provisions of the union have yet to be implemented. Most recently, talks in October 2008 focused on plans to move forward with unification of customs rates for the Union State, supposedly to be completed by the end of the year, and the use of the Russian ruble for mutual payments. South Ossetia and Abkhazia have both expressed interest in joining the Union State, and in order for them to do so, their application must first be approved by the Union Parliament, and then the presidents of Belarus and Russia must approve the Parliament’s resolution to accept Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Condoleezza Rice counted Belarus as a part of the Outposts of tyranny.

The United States continues to support Belarus' adherence to arms control agreements and treaties into which it has previously entered, including the Open Skies Treaty, which Belarus ratified in 2001. Cooperation in all such agreements has been exemplary.

Humanitarian aid continues to be the primary engagement between the U.S. military and Belarus. Humanitarian assistance programs have provided a tangible, long-lasting service and have encouraged goodwill toward the U.S. Government and the U.S. military. Humanitarian assistance has two principal elements--the Humanitarian Assistance Program-Excess Property donates non-lethal goods and technical assistance for humanitarian purposes while other assistance focuses on projects such as the refurbishment of medical facilities and the construction of school buildings.

Direct military to military cooperation continues to be minimal. Belarus currently has no International Military Education and Training (IMET) program, and bilateral exercises and cooperation are nonexistent. There is a great desire on the Belarusian side to re-establish such cooperation and contacts, but it has not been possible due to the political situation. The only program that is still functional within this category is the attendance of Belarusian military officers at George C. Marshall Center programs.

Belarus is currently cooperating with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, through the Partnership for Peace Trust Fund, to destroy a total of 700,000 conventional landmines. Belarus also has a stockpile of over 3 million non-conventional anti-personnel mines, which it pledged to destroy by March 2008. However, the bidding process for the project of destroying the mines is still ongoing. In addition, there are numerous World War II-vintage minefields, which are still in place and kill or injure several Belarusians every year.

The Ministry of Defense is experiencing success in the area of military reform. Planned changes include combining the Air and Air Defense Forces, downsizing the force structure about 30% from 83,000 to 60,000, transitioning from a conscript to a contract force, and modernizing the command and control structure by creating a Ground Forces Command between the Ministry of Defense and the units in the field. Implementation of these reforms will take an unspecified amount of time.

There have been numerous reports of Belarusian sales or delivery of weapons or weapons-related technologies to states of concern, including state sponsors of terrorism. In April and September 2004, the United States imposed sanctions on a Belarusian entity, Belvneshpromservice, pursuant to the Iran Nonproliferation Act of 2000 for the transfer to Iran of items on a multilateral export control list, or items having the potential of making a material contribution to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), or cruise or ballistic missile systems.

As part of the former Soviet Union, Belarus had a relatively well-developed industrial base; it retained this industrial base following the breakup of the U.S.S.R. The country also has a broad agricultural base and a high education level. Among the former republics of the Soviet Union, it had one of the highest standards of living. But Belarusians now face the difficult challenge of moving from a state-run economy with a high priority on military production and heavy industry to a civilian, free-market system.

After an initial outburst of capitalist reform from 1991-94, including privatization of state enterprises, creation of institutions of private property, and development of entrepreneurship, Belarus has greatly slowed under Lukashenka, and in many cases, reversed its pace of privatization and other market reforms while emphasizing the need for a "socially oriented market economy." About 80% of all industry remains in state hands, and foreign investment has been hindered by a climate hostile to business. The banks, which had been privatized after independence, were renationalized under Lukashenka. The government has also renationalized companies using the "Golden Share" mechanism, which allows government control in all companies with foreign investment, as well as through other administrative means.

Economic output, which declined for several years, revived in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but the economy has been dependent on heavy discounts in oil and natural gas prices from Russia. Belarus has historically re-exported the oil and oil products at world market prices, using the windfall profits to subsidize state enterprises. In December 2006, Belarus and Russian gas giant Gazprom signed a deal which will eventually end Russia's subsidies of gas for Belarus. Under the deal, Gazprom raised prices for Belarus gas deliveries in 2007 to $100 per 1,000 cubic meters, a significant rise from the subsidized previous price of $46, but still far less than the price paid by EU member states. The price for Russian gas will continue to increase incrementally until 2011, when it will equal the price paid by EU members. However, Belarusian officials stated in late 2008 and early 2009 Belarus’ interest in postponing the rise to EU prices until 2014-2015. Under the 2006 agreement, Gazprom will also gradually acquire a 50% stake in Beltransgaz, the Belarusian gas pipeline firm. In January 2007, Russia followed up with a steep duty on oil deliveries, which caused a significant drop in revenue from exports of oil products and Russian-sourced crude oil. The increase in gas prices and simultaneous moves by Moscow to reduce the profitability of refining Russian oil in Belarus for re-export disrupted plans to upgrade industries ranging from oil refining to cement production.

Peat, the country's most valuable mineral resource, is used for fuel, for fertilizer, and in the chemical industry. Belarus also has deposits of clay, sand, chalk, dolomite, phosphorite, and rock and potassium salt. Forests cover about a third of the land, and lumbering is an important occupation. Potatoes, flax, hemp, sugar beets, rye, oats, and wheat are the chief agricultural products. Dairy and beef cattle, pigs, and chickens are raised. Belarus has only small reserves of petroleum and natural gas, and it imports most of its oil and gas from Russia. The main branches of industry produce tractors and trucks, earthmovers for use in construction and mining, metal-cutting machine tools, agricultural equipment, motorcycles, chemicals, fertilizer, textiles, and consumer goods. The chief trading partners are Russia, Germany, Ukraine, and Poland.

The massive April 26, 1986 nuclear accident at the Chernobyl power plant, across the border in Ukraine, had a devastating effect on Belarus. As a result of the radiation released, agriculture in a large part of the country was destroyed and many villages were abandoned. Resettlement and medical costs were substantial and long-term. Many living in Chernobyl afflicted zones have infrequent access to medical treatment due to remoteness, inadequate equipment, and substantial costs. Although the Belarusian authorities claim otherwise, many radiation monitoring stations, especially in rural areas, are either ill-equipped, poorly staffed, and/or no longer in operation. Resettlement of those in affected areas remains incomplete.

Due to the economic and political climate, little new foreign investment has occurred in recent years. In 2002, two major companies, the Swedish furniture firm Ikea and Russian beer producer Baltika, ended operations in Belarus due to unrealized government commitments or unwelcome interference. Ford Motors did the same in 1999. Economic pressures in 2007 may have led to the unexpected and non-transparent sale of a state telecommunications company to an Austrian firm.

Growth continued to be robust in 2007. Consumer price inflation averaged about 8.3% in 2007, but higher energy import prices are expected to drive up inflation for 2008 and subsequent years. Large wage increases, which were typical in the 1990s and early 2000s, fueled some increased consumption but also made Belarusian firms less competitive. Close to 20% of enterprises and a majority of collective farms currently operate at a loss, a percentage that has remained steady since 2002. Beginning in late 2008, Belarus increasingly felt the effects of the global financial crisis, as exports decreased to other severely impacted economies, notably Russia. In light of the crisis, Belarus secured a $2 billion loan from Russia in November 2008 and a $2.5 billion stand-by arrangement from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in January 2009.

Belarus continues to be heavily dependent on Russia, with the potential for greater economic dependency in a long-proposed EU-style union between the two states. Prospects for an eventual union state remain weak, however, largely due to the apparent lack of interest on the part of the leadership of both countries. However, Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan have announced plans to move ahead with the formation of a customs union that they expect to be completed by 2010.

The World Bank announced a new 4-year country assistance strategy for Belarus in December 2007, which focuses on global environment and energy challenges, enhances the competitiveness of the Belarusian economy to assure rising incomes, and protects the welfare of the most vulnerable. As part of the strategy, the World Bank is financing improvements to schools, hospitals, and homes for orphans, the elderly, and the disabled throughout Belarus, with particular emphasis on improving the energy efficiency of those facilities. In 2004, Belarus rejected a World Bank loan to help fight AIDS and tuberculosis. IMF cooperation is currently limited to policy and technical consultations.

GDP (2006 est.): $36.99 billion (2006 IMF estimate). GDP growth rate (2007 est.): 5.5%. Per capita GDP (2006): $3,700. Natural resources: Forest land, peat deposits, potash, small amounts of oil and natural gas. Agriculture: Products--grain, potatoes, vegetables, flax, beef, milk. Industry: Types--machinery and transport equipment, chemical products, fabrics, and consumer goods. Trade (2005): Exports--$16.0 billion (refined petroleum, machinery and transport equipment, chemicals, foodstuffs, metals, and textiles). Major markets--Russia, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Great Britain, Ukraine, and Lithuania. Imports--$16.7 billion (mineral products, machinery and equipment, metals, crude oil and natural gas, chemicals, foodstuffs). Major suppliers--Russia, Germany, Ukraine, Poland, Italy, Lithuania. Exchange rate (April 2007): 2,145 BYR (Belarusian rubles)=U.S. $1.

Belarus has established ministries of energy, forestry, land reclamation, and water resources, as well as state committees to deal with ecology and safety procedures in the nuclear power industry. The most serious environmental issue in Belarus results from the 1986 accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. About 70% of the nuclear fallout from the plant landed on Belarusian territory and about 20% of the land remains contaminated. Government restrictions on residence and use of contaminated land are not strictly enforced, and the government even announced plans in 2004 to increase agricultural production in the contaminated regions. The government receives U.S. assistance in its efforts to deal with the consequences of the radiation. Belarus also faces growing air, land, and water pollution levels from potash mining in the south of the country.

While archeological evidence points to settlement in today's Belarus at least 10,000 years ago, recorded history begins with settlement by Baltic and Slavic tribes in the early centuries A.D. With distinctive features by the ninth century, the emerging Belarusian state was then absorbed by Kievan Rus' in the ninth century. Belarus was later an integral part of what was called Litva, which included today's Belarus as well as today's Lithuania. Belarus was the birthplace of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Belarusian was the state language of the Grand Duchy until 1697, in part owing to the strong flowering of Belarusian culture during the Renaissance through the works of leading Belarusian humanists such as Frantzisk Skaryna. Belarus was the site of the Union of Brest in 1597, which created the Greek Catholic Church, for long the majority church in Belarus until suppressed by the Russian empire, and the birthplace of Thaddeus Kosciuszko, who played a key role in the American Revolution. Occupied by the Russian empire from the end of the 18th century until 1918, Belarus declared its short-lived National Republic on March 25, 1918, only to be forcibly absorbed by the Bolsheviks into what became the Soviet Union (U.S.S.R.). Suffering devastating population losses under Soviet leader Josif Stalin and the German Nazi occupation, including mass executions of 800,000 Jews, Belarus was retaken by the Soviets in 1944. It declared its sovereignty on July 27, 1990, and independence from the Soviet Union on August 25, 1991. It has been run by authoritarian Alyaksander Lukashenka since 1994.

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(Difference between revisions)::The steepest uptick occurred in the most recent era from 2000-2009, during which incidence rose 3.6 percent per year.::The steepest uptick occurred in the most recent era from 2000-2009, during which incidence rose 3.6 percent per year.::Keeping in mind that the study is about women in the 25-39 age group, the group around 2000 (before the uptick) are not pre-abortion.  Even the oldest (age 39) member of the least cancerous cohort (in 2000) would have been age 12 when  Roe v. Wade was decided in January 1973.  In other words, even the early, healthy, group in the study were of child-bearing age in the abort era.  As much as I'd like for this study to support this case, I don't see how it does. [[User:MelH|MelH]] 15:32, 2 July 2013 (EDT)::Keeping in mind that the study is about women in the 25-39 age group, the group around 2000 (before the uptick) are not pre-abortion.  Even the oldest (age 39) member of the least cancerous cohort (in 2000) would have been age 12 when  Roe v. Wade was decided in January 1973.  In other words, even the early, healthy, group in the study were of child-bearing age in the abort era.  As much as I'd like for this study to support this case, I don't see how it does. [[User:MelH|MelH]] 15:32, 2 July 2013 (EDT)Here is a link to a reputable source that more than confirms the hypothesis.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1288955/Abortion-triple-risk-breast-cancer.html--[[User:Tomqua|Tomqua]] 16:02, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

The two rows about gold seem repetitive. How about combining into only one row?--Andy Schlafly 14:23, 20 November 2011 (EST)

It is a lot of information plus Conservapedia mentioned gold and precious metals a lot. But at the same time reportedly positively about having a broad commodity strategy if possible. I think it would make a very long single entry. I will look at it though. Conservative 15:18, 20 November 2011 (EST) I will combine them. Conservative if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); }

The article claims that Conservapedia's prediction about the theory of General Relativity being wrong was proven by Neutrinos travelling faster that the speed of light. It has recently been found that this is in fact false, the accuracy of the measurements was affected by a loose fibre optic cable [1]. Shall I remove this claim?

The issue remains unresolved, rather than the claim by the scientists having been proven false. Feel free to edit accordingly.--Andy Schlafly 10:54, 29 February 2012 (EST) Thanks for the help Andy. Sorry, I'm new so I thought I would ask. Either way, the statement is invalid as there is reasonable concern that the results are inaccurate. I will delete it for now as it will save face for Conservapedia. But if the anomaly is still present (as some physicists believe it will be), then we can alwpays re-insert it.--JeremyK 11:23, 29 February 2012 (EST)

If Conservapedia thought those two weren't likely nominees why is Palin still listed as one and Christie was only removed as a potential nominee only two days ago?

The way that mathematical probabilities work, nobody, including Palin, has an absolute zero probability of being nominated. An absolute zero probability for an uncertainty is, by definition, impossible.--Andy Schlafly 00:05, 22 November 2011 (EST) Conservapedia statement: "Newt Gingrich is the most likely to win the Republican nomination for President" Ranking of Potential Republican Candidates by Likelihood of Winning Nomination as per the linked article right now: #1 - Mitt Romney

So Conservapedia is proven right for a prediction it's not making anymore? Oh, let me guess: If Mitt Romney wins the nomination after all, you will again claim that Conservapedia is proven right by linking to the first version where he happened to be at the top?

Make up your mind - either actually promote Newt as your top choice or strike this out. It's not much of a prediction when you're basically playing "Heads, I win! Tails, you lose!" with the wiki revision system. ;) --Sid 3050 17:41, 22 November 2011 (EST)

I see that the "most likely" list at least reflects this "prediction" again. --Sid 3050 17:12, 27 November 2011 (EST) Conservapedia statement: "Atheistic Britain would embarrass itself in the World Cup" Liberal claptrap in response: "Liberal denial shouts down any observation of the correlation between atheism and underachievement" Result: "'England's performance at South Africa 2010 was officially their worst at a World Cup finals, according to Fifa.'"

Uh... your logic isn't sound. You roughly guessed a soccer result correctly, but that doesn't prove anything about a supposed correlation between atheism and underachievement.

Let's look at the actual statistics and results:

Both England and the religious USA dropped out in the Top 16 round. The Top 3 spots of the World Cup went to Spain, the Netherlands and Germany (in that order). This site lists somewhat recent atheism/agnostic/nonbeliever rates per country: Spain: 15 - 24% Netherlands: 39 - 44% Germany: 41 - 49% Britain (as a yardstick for "atheistic country"): 31 - 44% USA (as a yardstick for a religious country): 3 - 9%

What was that? Correlation between atheism and underachieving? Citing the World Cup 2010 as an example? Not quite. --Sid 3050 18:08, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Obviously nobody said atheism was the only factor. Of course there are other factors in fielding a successul soccer team, such as the level of interest in the sport. Looking at British soccer performance over time isolates the effect of atheism. As atheism has grown in Britain, it's ability to compete in the World Cup has fallen to pathetically weak levels. Atheism causes underachievement.--Andy Schlafly 19:09, 22 November 2011 (EST) England's past World Cup ratings: 1950: 8th 1954: 6th 1958: 11th 1962: 8th 1966: 1st 1970: 8th 1974: not qualified 1978: not qualified 1982: 6th 1986: 8th 1990: 4th 1994: not qualified 1998: 9th 2002: 6th 2006: 7th 2010: 13th Whenever England qualified for a World Cup, it ended up in the Top 16. And I highlighted (in bold) the times in which England made it at least into the quarterfinals. Fallen to pathetically weak levels? During the last three World Cups, England twice had one of the best eight teams on the planet. Or are you claiming that there was a sudden atheism spike between 2006 and 2010? Also, the FIFA World Rankings currently rank England as #7, and the trend there isn't exactly indicating growing failure. So let's do this right. What are your sources for the claim that "atheism has grown in Britain"? How much during what time period? And then we can see how that compares to the the World Cup and the World Ranking. And you claim that atheism causes underachievement, but completely fail to address how the atheism in other countries somehow isn't causing underachievement there. You can't make a claim and then only consider a single country with "high" levels of atheism. How do you explain that the best three teams during the last World Cup have high atheism rates? Why aren't highly religious countries doing better? Sorry, but I don't see this going anywhere. You considered only a single data point (the performance of a single team during a single World Cup) to make a claim that doesn't seem to fit the moment you expand the scope at all. You called a single team's performance during a single event correctly, but that doesn't make your reasoning right. --Sid 3050 20:32, 22 November 2011 (EST)

I'm surprised that this is still doing its rounds: It's wrong.

I don't even have to make a longwinded speech; just look at this discussion and also at this one. --Sid 3050 18:13, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Since the "prediction" was made, Stewart hasn't actually been in any movies. Hosting the Academy Awards was not movie acting. If you want to count "has appeared in front of a camera" as movie acting, then The Daily Show also counts, and it does very well. In addition, this prediction was originally made by somebody who was banned as a vandal. --Sid 3050 17:12, 27 November 2011 (EST)

It just look like boasting. And I shall remind you that "As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil." - James 4:16 --PhilipN 23:10, 8 February 2012 (EST)

Neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. - Matthew 5:15. Your move!--CPalmer 11:45, 29 February 2012 (EST) Admittedly, the title is a bit on the nose. I'm inclined to change it to "Conservapedia prescience" or "Presience of conservative insight." Or simply "Conservative Insight." DouglasA 12:38, 29 February 2012 (EST) (edit conflict) Well put, CPalmer. And if "accountability" had been a term known to the King James Version translators, then it would be in the English translations of the Bible too. It's very important to circle back and check what was right and what was wrong.--Andy Schlafly 12:40, 29 February 2012 (EST) Douglas, I'm open-minded about this, but don't think the alternative titles would be an improvement.--Andy Schlafly 12:41, 29 February 2012 (EST)

Isn't it possible (and indeed more likely) that the penguin was never gay in the first place? I can't really picture one penguin (peacefully or otherwise) convincing another penguin to change from his ways. There are no penguin therapy support groups. Either way, Conservapedia is right about the gay animal myth (either he's an ex-homosexual or he never was one in the first place). But I do think that possibility is worth mentioning. I'm not sure how to word it though. Gregkochuconn 22:44, 9 February 2012 (EST)

I think the idea of a homosexual animal is wrongheaded and that the homosexual animal notion is a myth. Conservative 20:12, 29 March 2012 (EDT) ? http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/official-word-on-superluminal-ne.html?ref=hp

Don't we need some evidence of intent before deciding that Santorum was a stalking horse for Romney? Was Nader a stalking horse for Bush in 2000? He certainly did more to hurt Gore than Santorum did to hurt Gingrich --JustinD 20:57, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

I have an open mind about whether Santorum was a stalking horse for Romney. But what other plausible explanation is there for the abrupt pull-out by Santorum at this time, stranding so many conservatives who had rallied behind him?--Andy Schlafly 21:42, 10 April 2012 (EDT) Winning less than half as many delegates as Romney. A sick kid at home. Nothing near the financial resources that Romney has. Poll leads in his home state that weren't incredibly solid. DVMRoberts 22:03, 10 April 2012 (EDT) Just speculating, but I'd say the potential loss in Pennsylvania had to play a big part in his timing. It's been clear for a while now that he didn't really have much of a chance of turning things around this time out, but the longer he could stay competitive, the more influence he'd have going forward. A loss in his home state would have cost him a lot of credibility he's gained these last few months. It's also not implausible that Romney made some pseudo-promises behind the scenes that now allow him to cancel what was going to be a huge ad buy in Pennsylvania. At any rate, if you/we/Conservapedia still have an open mind about Santorum's status as a stalking horse, is it really an appropriate time to count this as an example of Conservapedia proven right?JustinD 00:40, 11 April 2012 (EDT) Yeah, it seems silly to proclaim Conservapedia proven right about something that isn't even clear is true yet. And if Conservapedia did indeed think Santorum was just a stalking horse for Romney, why has it portrayed Santorum as the conservative alternative to Romney for the past few months? Why was this prediction from two years ago not brought up weeks ago? --BradleyS 01:56, 11 April 2012 (EDT) Although this will unfortunately make me sound like a jerk, this really isn't the place for those questions. Can we focus on trying to improve this particular article? I do appreciate the pro not-yet-a-stalking-horse sentiment though. --JustinD 02:09, 11 April 2012 (EDT) I think those questions are relevant. Conservapedia is claiming have been proven right about X when it doesn't appear to have actually believed in X and X hasn't been shown to be true. That's about as far away as 'proven right' as you can be. Hence an improvement of this article would be to remove the entry. --BradleyS 12:01, 11 April 2012 (EDT) You're right. Sorry about that and carry on. I guess I was more tired than I thought last night. --JustinD 12:50, 11 April 2012 (EDT) It was asked "why has it portrayed Santorum as the conservative alternative to Romney for the past few months?" - Answer: because, obviously, voters perceived "Santorum as the conservative alternative to Romney." The strength of the votes for that conservative alternative was significant. What Santorum's own intentions have been are, of course, another matter. The sbrupt timing of his pull-out seemed to have been coordinated with the Romney campaign, or at least to help him. Gingrich didn't pull out.--Andy Schlafly 15:32, 11 April 2012 (EDT) Exactly. I completely agree. This strongly hints that Santorum might not be as conservative as Romney really is (perhaps the plan was something like this; Romney would appeal to moderates while Santorum distracted the easily amused Liberals as Romney gained support. Now with his "shield" down Liberals have spent all their ammo on Santorum so Romney can advance as the real, true Conservative? When you think about it it's brilliant; the Republicans appear to compromise with the more simpleminded voters when in reality the Conservative train steams ahead with more power than ever! Insel 00:01, 19 April 2012 (EDT)

That's bordering the ridiculous: Aschlafly, have you read your source beyond the headline? Surely you want to differ between man-made quakes and natural ones! And a quote from the article: "America's Natural Gas Alliance, which represents major energy companies involved in natural gas fracking, said it was difficult to conclude anything based on an unpublished abstract. " So perhaps you want to wait for the scientific article until you declare triumph - or will this be another article you quote, but don't read? AugustO 14:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

You seem to be focusing on the hearsay in the article, which of course would be inadmissible in court for its lack of reliability. The article is cite here for its admissible factual content, which is that large earthquakes are increasing. Please see hearsay society for an enlightening discussion of the key distinction.--Andy Schlafly 14:13, 22 April 2012 (EDT) I think AugustO's point is that although Conservapedia is technically correct in saying the number of earthquakes is increasing, there is a very real possibility that the increase is due to recent human activity. If this is the case, the increase in earthquakes is not a logical counterexample to an old Earth. Even though the increase in earthquakes has not been conclusively linked to fracking, ignoring this possibility and claiming the counterexample to be definitively true is an example of deliberate ignorance or closed-mindedness. --AaronT 15:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT) Previously there was denial that earthquakes are increasing. Conservapedia was correct about that, and there's no denying that now, right? As to why, that's a separate issue, but the claim that mankind is causing this is implausible.--Andy Schlafly 15:21, 22 April 2012 (EDT) To answer your question, yes, you are correct. Whether this item belongs in this article and whether it belongs in Counterexamples to an Old Earth are two seperate issues. --AaronT 15:31, 22 April 2012 (EDT) Aschlafly would be correct if his claim were that the number of magnitude 3 and greater earthquakes increases dramatically in an area that includes Arkansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Texas. But his claim is Large earthquakes are increasing in frequency. That's quite a difference! And calling the claim that mankind is causing this [...] implausible seems to be a sign of severe closed-mindedness! AugustO 16:17, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

Mr. Schlafly, I know from the article about you that you have a background in law and engineering, two fields that highly value logic, evidence, and truth. So you must understand that one nonspecific example of one case of premature graying at one point in time - or even the few example given in the Counterexample to an Old Earth page - does not nearly offer rigorous proof that premature graying is increasing. (Not to mention the almost nonexistent relationship between premature graying and the age of the Earth.) --Randall7 23:19, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

The example is specific, and one case can prove a theory. The solitary example of Christ rising from the dead does prove several theories in Christianity. With young people having gray hair with increasing frequency, this does suggest that the slope of man's developmental path is a much sharper incline (downward) than Old Earth believers claim.--Andy Schlafly 23:46, 28 April 2012 (EDT) Of course you are correct that there are some theories that can be proven true with a single example. But this is certainly not one of them. To prove your claim is true, you need to present a substantial amount of data from the past as well as from the present. At the risk of being called part of the Hearsay society, I am going to suggest you present some credible references. (Also, I called the example on this page nonspecific because the "Result" column does not give the person's name or a reference.) --Randall7 00:25, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Good point about the need for specificity. The link is on the front page but this entry should identify the person. I've corrected that. Your request for references is unpersuasive, as evidence is abundant in daily life. Would anyone ask Jesus for a reference after telling the parable of the Prodigal Son?--Andy Schlafly 00:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT) I appreciate your point - I doubt anyone asked Jesus for references during his numerous speeches/sermons. But even though it may be obvious to you that the age of onset of gray hair is rapidly decreasing, it may not be obvious to many readers of Conservapedia, so providing substantial evidence would be useful to these readers. --Randall7 00:41, 29 April 2012 (EDT) No, but you're not Jesus. You need to provide citations to factual claims when asked. You should do it before being asked really. I know you know this. Nate 10:02, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

And now we see the "Hearsay Society" defense (...or, as I call it, the "Go Away, You Bother Me" defense) in action. Look Randall, look Nate: I've been coming to this website since 2007. Here's how it works. As stated above, one of the people who never have to provide evidence for their claims is Jesus Christ Himself. The other is Andy Schlafly. People are going gray earlier. Just roll with it, 'cause you ain't gonna get any more than "It's self-evident" or "One case proves the theory." Just kick back and enjoy the fun. Sylvain 10:05, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Nonsense. Mr. Schlafly uses citations all the time. He just needs to cite it his point. Nate 10:11, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Mr. Schlafly supported a user who created a template expressly designed to do away with the need for citations. Thus the invention of the notion of the "Hearsay Society." Mr. Schlafly just now on this very page is arguing that, like Jesus Christ, his assertions on this matter are obvious and require no corroborating data. Mr. Schlafly re-wrote the Bible when that particular "data-set," if you would, did not correspond to his own beliefs, and has used articles about events that happened billions of years ago in order to advance the cause of a young creation. Mr. Schlafly has what one might call an interesting approach to the idea of how evidence might support an argument. Sylvain 10:16, 29 April 2012 (EDT) The Hearsay Society is the ultimate haven for anyone who denies logic and, in this case, the increasingly premature graying apparent all around in daily life. Pharisees used the same escape hatch to avoid accepting the compelling parables and indisputable reasoning.--Andy Schlafly 10:19, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Not it's not apparent at all because none of us is 6000 years old, assuming YEC is why you're saying this it seems to me that arguing without citing authority where necessary is the ultimate escape hatch for anyone who denies logic because arguments are built on supported factual premises. We have no idea how grey people were at age 30 before the invention of photography unless you've got some citations. And you're still not Jesus. This grey hair stuff is not remotely similar to Jesus's sayings and you know it. You're also getting hearsay wrong. It has nothing to do with citing authority. Nate 10:38, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

ASchlafly, most people who are asked for a bit of evidence to back up a controversial claim don't retreat to constructing societal models out of whole cloth and then charging their interlocutors with being members of that made-up society. Nor do they compare their own arguments to those of the Lord. Sylvain 10:56, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Wait a minute here Mr. Schlafly - are you suggesting I'm part of this "hearsay society" and that by asking you for a citation to show that people are prematurely graying I'm "continuing the don't-think-for-yourself tradition started by the Pharisees"? Nate 12:33, 29 April 2012 (EDT) That's exactly what he's doing. I'm curious as to why you would find this surprising. Sylvain 12:57, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Jesus was infalible. You, Aschlafly, are not. He did not need to provide citations but unless you are now comparing yourself to Jesus you, Aschlafly as a falible human, do. Davidspencer 11:56, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Also - but please correct me if I'm wrong - Jesus did not tell the Parable of the Prodigal Son as a true story, but, well, as a parable. --FrederickT3 12:59, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Jesus told the parable as a true story about the good side of human nature. It was not merely fiction. Notice how no one asked Him to provide a citation that human nature was really like this. Instead, listeners of the Prodigal Son then and now think for themselves, and recognize its truth without resorting to a demand for hearsay.--Andy Schlafly 13:07, 29 April 2012 (EDT) So you feel yourself to be on a level with Jesus? You feel that because he, the infaliable Son of God, was not asked for a citation then you should not be? Less than 300 years ago you would have been burnt at the stake for making such a claim. You should really reconsider your hubris, and then ask for forgivness for your pride. And then provide a citation - or withdraw your claim. Davidspencer 13:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT) But ASchlafly, you yourself said that a parable is "a fictional narrative." Is it a true story or fiction? It cannot be both. Sylvain 13:34, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Sylvain, do you think the correct answer to a word problem in math is "merely fiction"? I don't think so. David, I don't think Christians burned anyone at the stake for making observations about premature graying, without citation.--Andy Schlafly 13:58, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

For those of you who argue that Andy Schlafly is not infalible and needs to supply sources, keep in mind that by your own argument you need to supply sources that Andy is not infalible if you wish to state it. I doubt you can. JacobJ 14:16, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Edit Conflict: No, but they very well might have burned someone who claimed that his pronouncements were as clear and obvious as those of the Lord. And I'm not sure you can equate word problems with empirical statements about the observable world. I could write a word problem about a train taking 20 minutes to go from Baltimore to Chicago, and for the sake of the word problem, that's fine. It's not the same as saying "a train take 20 minutes to go from Baltimore to Chicago, and only a Pharisee would question my word," which is essentially what you are doing here. Sylvain So is the correct answer to a word problem "merely fiction," or not? And, by the way, Christians did not burn people at the stake as much as public schools might lead people to believe. Opponents of Christianity have been far more violent throughout history.--Andy Schlafly 14:25, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Let's leave the questions of public schools and burning at the stake aside for the purposes of this discussion. The issue here is whether or not a constructed word problem is the same as an empirical claim about the world. I could construct a word problem where the correct answer is that the train took 20 minutes to get from Baltimore to Chicago. That says nothing about an actual train. You are making a claim about grey hair and when asked for evidence, your position seems to be "Jesus didn't need to provide evidence for his parables, and neither do I for this claim." This implies, to the casual observer, that you think that your claims have the same authority as those of the Lord. Do you not see how the reader might raise his eyebrows at such a position? Sylvain 14:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

OK, suppose it wasn't Jesus who told the Prodigal Son, but someone else. Would anyone ask for references to confirm how the story illustrates a truth about life?--Andy Schlafly 15:28, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Someone might ask not for references to confirm that the story tells a truth about life, but for references that the events mentioned in the story actually happened. However, whether or not the story happened or not doesn't change the lesson implied in the story. I get that. But you're not simply telling a story to impart a larger lesson. You are making an empirical claim about the world, having to do with the occurrence of gray hairs. The only evidence you seem to give is "Just like Jesus, I don't need any proof." But Jesus wasn't talking about an actual son and an actual father in the parable--he was telling a story. He could have made it all up in order to illustrate the lesson; that doesn't make the lesson any less valid. Story-telling is not making an empirical claim. Surely you can see the difference. Either 1. You do not understand the difference between metaphor and observable reality, or 2. You believe that your word is as unquestionable as that of Jesus Christ Himself. Sylvain 15:52, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

A man making a claim with an appeal to Scripture is one thing. A man making a claim with an appeal to Scripture who led a project to re-write the Bible because parts of it did not conform to his political ideology is quite another. Then the claims of the man become self-fulfilling. Step 1: "Here is a claim about the world." Step 2: "For verification of this claim, please consult the version of the Bible that I wrote that reinforces the vision of the world that I am claiming in Step 1." Step 3: "If you have a problem with that, remember that Jesus--at least the version of him that I describe in my Bible--said things without reference to anything, and I can too. Because, like the claims of Jesus (the one in the Bible I rewrote), my claims are obvious." Does that not strike you as problematic? Sylvain 16:01, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

The Conservative Bible Project has always been dedicated to translating the original meaning of the Bible more precisely, free of liberal bias that creeps into other translations.--Andy Schlafly 23:58, 29 April 2012 (EDT) Which explains why so many noted conservative theologians have given the rewritten Bible that you produced high praises, and why so many conservative churches and denominations are using it instead of those other, more liberal versions, I guess. Sylvain 00:07, 30 April 2012 (EDT) I think the first statement would amount to more reliance on hearsay concerning what "conservative" theologians supposedly said. And, by the way, the Conservative Bible Project was never a "rewritten Bible."--Andy Schlafly 00:51, 30 April 2012 (EDT) This page is proudly free from citations

To insist on finding a reference elsewhere for every statement made, as Wikipedia does, is to be a slave to hearsay. The authors of this page have enough confidence in their own insight not to lean on the opinions and assertions of others.

What is this?

15:50, 29 April 2012 (EDT) It's a template that can be used to answer or pre-empt calls for references on pages where they aren't needed. There's also {{nohearsaysection}} for use on specific sections of pages.--CPalmer 09:21, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

Andy, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that there is a scientist, a well-respected man and a well-known conservative (so no liberal bias involved), who has spent his career investigating premature greying in society, collecting data on the current incidence of premature greying and studying historic records on premature greying. Let us further assume - purely hypothetically - that this man has found that premature greying has not increased since, say, the time of Jesus up to now. If we don't know this man personally, should we take his results seriously or should we dismiss them and all reference to them as hearsay? What if we know him personally, maybe even as a close friend, and know him to be an honest, conservative man? Should we trust him and take his results seriously, even if they contradict what we believe to be true? At what point does information obtained from someone else stop being hearsay? You will surely say that he will not find contradicting results, but my question is not about premature greying (incidentally, I'm in my mid-40s and have been completely grey for at least ten years now). What I really want to understand is the concept of hearsay, its limits and the connection to openmindedness. --FrederickT3 11:36, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

I'm sorry, I meant what's the point of this. References aren't bad, they prevent people from inventing their own facts.brenden 00:21, 1 May 2012 (EDT) When a demand for references is used to shout down logic or obvious truths available to everyone, then that is bad. When references are used to repeat hearsay contained in the references, then that is also bad. Silly demands for references or authority were used to interfere with the logic and obvious truths in the Gospels, which of course contain no references.--Andy Schlafly 00:44, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

'::good point. However, when used correctly, references help people navigate the facts and content

I agree, but too often people demand references as a way of sidestepping clear logic or obvious truths, while accepting worthless references in other situations if the references reinforce their views.--Andy Schlafly 01:04, 1 May 2012 (EDT) So, I understand that it some situations, references just aren't readily available. Maybe because an insight is either so obvious that no one's bothered to discuss it or so novel that no one's thought to discuss it. But in other situations, they are available. Lots of smart people have studied lots of obscure things. In situations where references are available, is it appropriate to use them? If I, for example, found a study investigating the age at which people go grey, would that be worth considering? --JustinD 03:07, 1 May 2012 (EDT) Yes, of course references are sometimes - often - wholly appropriate and very useful. They are used extensively on Conservapedia. But Wikipedia has gone beyond that and suffers from a kind of reference-mania - dismissing any statement that has no reference, and conversely often allowing any old garbage on the grounds that it does have a (questionable) citation. See the comics here and here for two humorous commentaries on the problems caused by Wikipedia's policies (though note that other comics on that site may not be so educational - in fact the second link should come with a mild warning).--CPalmer 04:18, 1 May 2012 (EDT) I understand, I think, your criticism of how references are used elsewhere. I'm more interested in trying to understand how you/Andy/Conservapedia want them to be used here. How do I know when it is appropriate to ask for a reference? If I ask for one and am told it is not necessary, by what criteria will we (or even better, objective others) determine who is correct? If I have a reference on some topic, how will I know whether or not it is appropriate to include in an article? --JustinD 17:31, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

I recently stumbled upon this article after a link to it was featured on the main page. After reviewing the article and it's subsequent talk page discussion, I believe I have found a few areas that could stand some attention.

Ambiguousness of predictions - Many of the predictions are vague and offer little in the way of an objectively measurable outcome. To be effective, predictions should be as specific as possible, with indisputable results. Links to predictions - Very few of the list items reference the article (and exact edit) on Conservapedia where the actual prediction was made. Critics of the project could easily claim that predictions were being made after-the-fact once the final outcome was known. Citing the specific edit where the prediction was made would preemptively silence such criticism. "Liberal claptrap" responses - Like the predictions themselves, only a minuscule amount of the alleged liberal uproar is actually documented. The results - Surprisingly many of the results do not link to any external source, where the reader can review the material and reach their own conclusion about the accuracy of the prediction.

--DonnyC 15:06, 10 January 2013 (EST)

You're welcome to add more references, but the predictions and outcomes are so clear and well-known that even more references are hardly necessary.--Andy Schlafly 14:10, 15 January 2013 (EST)

Lance Armstrong was stripped from his titles in August 2012, so adding him in September 2012 to the list of overrated sport-starts doesn't take a visionary... --AugustO 11:46, 15 January 2013 (EST)

May seem obvious now, but as you can see from the reference there was objection in September 2012 to including him in the Overrated Sports Stars entry.--Andy Schlafly 12:02, 15 January 2013 (EST) I remember this well, as I reinserted the entry. So there were two editors (User:Wonders and User:AugustO) who thought that he was overrated, and other Conservapedians disagreed: you have enough convenient predictions to cover any outcome.... --AugustO 13:58, 15 January 2013 (EST) No, because the deniers were not "Conservapedians" in many meaningful sense. Conservapedians said he was overrated, and non-Conservapedians disagreed.--Andy Schlafly 14:08, 15 January 2013 (EST) the article on Lance Armstrong was created in Sep 2007. The first reference to drug abuse was inserted in Jan 2012 In Sep 2007 wikipedia's article on Armstrong already had a long section named Allegations of drug use

So even if you claim that Conservapedia was proven right, it came quite late to the party... --AugustO 14:34, 15 January 2013 (EST)

"Predicting" that Armstrong is overrated in September is a bit like "predicting" that Obama would win the election ... on the 7th of November. --DamianJohn 15:12, 15 January 2013 (EST) Liberal denial about Armstrong continued well past September. There are probably atheist websites today that still list him as being great.--Andy Schlafly 17:47, 15 January 2013 (EST) Liberal denial about Armstrong continued well past September. Evidence? There are probably atheist websites today that still list him as being great. Link? There are those thinks called facts... --AugustO 17:57, 15 January 2013 (EST) Liberal companies including a beer company and Nike continued to endorse Armstrong for months after September. Now, do you need a citation for that too???--Andy Schlafly 18:59, 15 January 2013 (EST) Just citations which show that Anheuser Bush and Nike are liberal companies... --AugustO 19:20, 15 January 2013 (EST) Oh please ... is it really necessary to provide a citation that Nike and a beer company are liberal???--Andy Schlafly 19:30, 15 January 2013 (EST) Yes. In my country, beer companies belong to the most conservative companies imaginable. And Anheuser Bush doesn't strike me as a kind of micro-brewery. --AugustO 19:32, 15 January 2013 (EST) Both Nike and Budd dropped him, presumably after looking in detail at their legal options. Besides I cannot imagine how you would even begin to argue that Nike is a "liberal" company - they are one of the biggest exploiters of cheap labour in the world; they are famous for having extremely lax safety standards for employees, and being in favour of countries that reduce them as much as possible. I'm not familiar with the beer company, but given their size I doubt they would meet any sensible definition of liberal. As for "I'm sure there are atheist websites who endorse him still"; that is a meaningless statement unless you actually cite one. --DamianJohn 21:07, 15 January 2013 (EST) It's difficult for me to imagine any corporation as "liberal." When the primary motivator is profit, groups and individuals tend to go conservative. --CamilleT 00:41, 16 January 2013 (EST) Big corporations have never been friendly to the conservative movement. Except for the union issue, big corporations tend to support liberals.--Andy Schlafly 00:54, 16 January 2013 (EST) I think the opposite is the case (take, for example, the membership of ALEC). GregG 01:14, 16 January 2013 (EST) (EC)And tax policy, and health and safety, and welfare, and discrimination laws, and minimum wages, and healthcare, and political finance reform and etc etc ad nauseum. --DamianJohn 01:18, 16 January 2013 (EST)

Rupert Murdock a liberal? AlanE 00:58, 16 January 2013 (EST)

Rupert Murdoch is whatever will further his business interests. He has at various times supported both sides of politics when doing so helps his various business interests. Dvergne 01:13, 16 January 2013 (EST) The Australian, "The Times of London", "The Wall Street Journal", those rubbish tabloids in Britain. New York and in the various state capitals in Australia - "liberal" papers, Dvergne? AlanE 01:38, 16 January 2013 (EST)

This is like shooting fish in a barrel guys - just follow the money. In 2012, Anheuser Busch donated 55% of its PAC money to Republicans, 45% to Democrats. Since 2003, it has donated 45% of its money to Republicans, and 38% to Democrats. In 2012, Nike donated 63% to Republicans, 37% to Democrats. Since 2004, Nike has given 43% to Republicans, 40% to Democrats. Although neither are 'overwhelmingly GOP', like, for example, Koch Industries (98% Republican, 2% Democrat), if the Nike and Anheuser Busch numbers were election results, they would be called a "landslide" for Republicans. The vast majority of corporations will be found to be like this - it's in their interest to support less regulation, lower business taxes, etc, and they almost all line up to support conservatives. Wonders 12:27, 18 January 2013 (EST)

The donations by corporations to Republicans are typically to liberal Republicans, some of whom are more liberal than many Democrats.--Andy Schlafly 19:30, 18 January 2013 (EST) But Anheuser-Busch is a member of ALEC, at least according to this source. I don't think they would belong to ALEC if they were liberal. GregG 20:13, 18 January 2013 (EST) Not to mention that Anheuser-Busch donated to Andy's favorite candidate Todd Akin. --DonnyC 20:32, 18 January 2013 (EST)

I read the National Geographic article, and it appears that the argument is whether the relay mechanically failed or whether it was improperly set. Nothing suggests that relay or its use was not at fault, and certainly nothing suggests that energy rationing of any sort contributed to the outage. Please fix this. Thanks, GregG 21:25, 9 February 2013 (EST)

A low setting on a relay (or fuse) would result from guidelines based on rationing energy.--Andy Schlafly 22:05, 9 February 2013 (EST) Relays almost never fail, and stadiums almost never go dark. You can't prove that a relay didn't cause a blackout by saying that relays almost never fail, just as liberals can't prove that God didn't create the world because worlds almost never are created. --Praymond 11:30, 27 May 2013 (EDT) There are several other, more plausible reasons. It could have been to prevent larger-scale blackouts due to interruption in the power coming into the stadium. It could have been to reduce the risk of fire (the same kind of reason why circuit breakers in your home trip). Or, the setting may have been too low simply due to human error. The details should be sorted out soon through investigation. GregG 22:31, 9 February 2013 (EST)

A simple google search shows that the term "media bullying" was already in use before Conservapedia purportedly coined it. Onestone 09:48, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

Were prior uses elsewhere of the term "media bullying" in the same rich meaning as the usage here?--Andy Schlafly 10:24, 10 March 2013 (EDT) You claim (and literally wrote) that Conservapedia coined the term. However, judging from your reply, what you probably intended to write was that Conservapedia merely coined the highly particular usage of the term. That is an essential difference. Onestone 09:13, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

The article cited as proof that abortion increases the risk of breast cancer mentions nothing about abortions, nothing about Roe V Wade being connected with the increase of cancer in young women. Quote: "Why more young women would be presenting with tumors that have already spread to bone, brain, lungs, or other distant sites isn't clear, they noted. Rising obesity rates, changes in alcohol and tobacco use, and genetics are possible causes, according to Dr. Thomas Julian, director of surgical oncology at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh."

If you want to find a connection, or have some proof, I recommend adding it, but this is not that proof. Doesn't even come close. It just so happens that the studies started a few years after Roe V Wade was decided. There is not even a casual connection between the two mentioned in this article. Vyselink 15:03, 26 March 2013 (EDT)

Newspaper articles often do have the problem of liberal denial, but are cited here for the facts they contain.--Andy Schlafly 20:09, 12 May 2013 (EDT) The article's fact's also don't support the conclusion I'm afraid, which ultimately doesn't make a good case for this thesis. It states: The steepest uptick occurred in the most recent era from 2000-2009, during which incidence rose 3.6 percent per year. Keeping in mind that the study is about women in the 25-39 age group, the group around 2000 (before the uptick) are not pre-abortion. Even the oldest (age 39) member of the least cancerous cohort (in 2000) would have been age 12 when Roe v. Wade was decided in January 1973. In other words, even the early, healthy, group in the study were of child-bearing age in the abort era. As much as I'd like for this study to support this case, I don't see how it does. MelH 15:32, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

Here is a link to a reputable source that more than confirms the hypothesis.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1288955/Abortion-triple-risk-breast-cancer.html --Tomqua 16:02, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

Does anyone else feel like this might be jumping the gun a little?? "Tamerlan Tsarnaev probably murdered his friend on a 9/11 anniversary, and DNA likely proves it." The words "probably" and "likely" are not synonyms for "proven right"... especially not when the only citation provided is a link back to the same statement (without any external source at the time of this posting) on the main page of this very website. I honestly haven't followed the murder case at all and have no idea what is going on with it, but the information provided here is far from convincing to me. Fnarrow 00:24, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

I stand corrected, there is now a source provided on the main page... however, it very clearly states that the evidence only points to them being in the area on the day of the murder and circumstantial at best. Like I said above, I haven't been following the case so I don't know all the details, I just feel it's a little premature to claim CP was proven right on this. Fnarrow 00:33, 12 May 2013 (EDT) I don't see any "liberal bias" or right-vs-left in any of this. All Americans believe that the Boston Marathon bombing, carjacking, police shootouts etc. were horrible behavior. It is an opportunity for the nation to pull together to respond to this. We all want the police and the criminal justice system to work effectively to identify all related crimes and any possible co-conspirators. America demands a complete and professional investigation. Thanks, Wschact 01:13, 12 May 2013 (EDT) Within days the DNA evidence from the 9/11 triple-murder was compared with the DNA of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and they likely matched. (If they didn't match, then authorities would surely say so.) Yet liberal denial about the DNA match continues.--Andy Schlafly 19:57, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

It seems my recent edit to this page was more controversial than I intended. I wanted to apologize to the project for the problems that I caused--it was never my intent to remove substantive material. I believe the lay out of the chart can be enhanced, and the following is my proposed methodology. I will not endeavor to make these changes without approval. Each of these phases would be enacted in separate edits with significant time in between them to facilitate review.
-First: Standardization of the dates. Currently, there is no standard. Some dates are seasons while others are ranges, and those with specific dates are displayed with no specific style. My proposed standardization is as follows--for dates: (Full Month) (Day) (Year). for those that are currently seasons or ranges, I will search for the first relevant edit and use that as the date. I will provide a citation.
-Second: Citation of Claims. After completing phase one, my intent is to revisit the table and provide internal citations to all predication made.
-Third: Citation of Results. After completing phase two, my intent is to revisit the table and provide citations to all results.
-Fourth: Sortability of Table. After completing phase three, my intent is to edit the formatting to create a sort-able table.

I believe these enhancements will improve the visual appeal of the table. Further, I believe these enhancements embody an important principle: credit where credit is due. Conservapedia has often made bold predictions and has been proven right time and time again. Although it is improper to brag, we ought to take pride in, and document, the project's success.

Again, my apologies for any complications my previous edits caused. WilliamWB 11:22, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

I'm fine with the addition of citations, and with standardizing the form for dates is good too. I don't see how sortability will be a problem. The reason I reverted prior edits to this entry was that content changed. For example, and I don't know if this was your edit, but a correct statement about Manning throwing interceptions in the final key game was changed to incorrectly state that Tebow had done so.--Andy Schlafly 16:22, 23 May 2013 (EDT) As I work through adding dates and internal citations, I have noticed that the archive page of In The News ends in December 2011. Were the months January-December 2012 archived? I ask because searching the archives is simpler than my current method of searching through revision histories. Thanks, WilliamWB 09:06, 27 May 2013 (EDT) I think 2012 is archived here: [1].--Andy Schlafly 09:23, 27 May 2013 (EDT) Ah, great! I was looking at the general archives page here: [2] Thanks, WilliamWB 11:55, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

I suggest deleting the point about the speed of light being variable. The article sited does not in fact say this. It states that the speed of light is constant but that space is not the complete vacuum previously thought. Thus the speed of light is slightly slower traveling through space as it is in any non vacuum. CenterK 01:53, 1 July 2013 (EDT)


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